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But we all are the "mouth piece of God" in a sense.(In my belief)

Overboy is atheist, well super. That's his belief. Maybe God sends him that way.

Oh yeah, there's a God.

It seems to many, that God has been silent for so many years.

I think our skepticism comes in a day and age where information is everywhere.  We can look up flight times and ticket prices in moments.  Yet, when we try to access God in the same manner, we feel that He is nonexistent or noncaring.

Depending on which version of the Bible you read, there was a period when God was silent for 400 years.  And then suddenly, the Messiah appeared just as foretold.

I think we are in a similiar time period today.  Not only do I believe in God (whose Son chose to die as atonement for our sins and allows His Spirit to dwell within us), but I believe that God is getting ready to do great things.

Beyond the rhetoric and beyond the words, I have seen some pretty cool miracles that affirm my belief in God.  I have no reason for why I would see these things and others wouldn't.  But I know that they are true.  (I've posted about them in other threads.)

alien said:

"prove it!"

The weak in society want proof for everything; they are not willing to accept on faith anything without some defined proof.

Yeah, that's really weak, isn't it? I mean, admitting that there are certain things we simply cannot know/understand, rather than saying, "must be God's doing!"

For them, nothing.

Unless I'm mistaken, under your belief system, that is definitely not for you to decide.

Several years ago, scientists discovered neutrinos (little neutrons) within the mass of atoms. Although they know scientifically they exist, proving it was, and still is, impossible. Even the most advanced scanning/tunnneling microscope is far too primitive to reveal neutrinos; but every physical scientist subscribes to their existence.

And your point is..?

alien: if you go through life with the staccato statement  "prove it!"; demanding definitive evidence for this and that,

Who says I do?

you will miss life itself.

I'll be the judge of that, thankyouverymuch.

Indeed, I cannot put my hand on the Milky Way galaxy, no can I say with authoritative proof such a galaxy exists, and, in fact, no astromer can point to definate size, shape, or extent quantifications, but they all say, yes, it exists.

That is irrelevant. It just so happens that assuming that the milky way galaxy actually exists provides a consistent system to work with when figuring out the world around us.

Such is God and belief in him.

No, that is a cop-out.

Want proof? You want the easy way to faith.

No, I don't I don't care for that.

It is not that easy!

I never said it would be.

[OverBoy is] willing to post a topic called "There Is No God" just the day before the most holy day of the year, Christmas, the birth of Christ.

And why not? Since he has declared himself an atheist, this is, after all, the centerpoint of his beliefs. You seem easily upset for someone usually so willing to deal out insults and inflammatory comments.

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Nakisisa, thanks, and happy holidays
to you as well. I'm not clear on the 'stick on
the ice' reference, but I'm sure you mean well.

The cop reference is a pretty valid one, I may
plagerize it at some point (which I'm prone to do
[but I'll say something like: 'a wise person once
said']).

Camp David, by '...for all men' I'll assume
you mean '... for all men, women, and children of
every shape and form'.

May Jehovah bless you. May Buddah keep you safe.
May G_d watch over you. May Allah protect you. May
Yahweh (sp?) guide you. May non-believers and the
righteous of the world over respect your path.

.. and Merry Christmas, on this your holiest of days.

- over

I see no reason to believe in a god, so I dont. The end.

I think it takes equal amounts of faith to believe that the universe with all its complexity just sprang into existence from nothing and to believe that the universe was created by an omnipotent being that sprang into existence from nothing.

I personally don't believe in god, and haven't for over a decade.

If by some miracle (and, of course, it would have to be) there is one, I'd like to think he'd cut me a break, since I simply used my god-given mind to deduce that he wasn't there.

"Hey God, nothin' personal, you know. You shouldn't be upset, unless you're the jealous, vain, and vengeful type, in which case, I don't really care if you'd have me or not, since you're just as petty as the humans you created. If I got you all wrong, please forgive me for that too. You've had some way smurfed up people claiming to be speaking your Words."

I think it takes equal amounts of faith to believe that the universe with all its complexity just sprang into existence from nothing and to believe that the universe was created by an omnipotent being that sprang into existence from nothing.

even the greatest minds..(steven hawking) suggests that although we can explain how things in the universe may have came to be and may even be able to pinpoint the birth of the universe..but someone or something had to put the whole thing into motion. even as a great mind he will not deny that God probably started the whole thing.

and to "There is no God" ... prove that there isn't.

But you were willing to post a topic called "There Is No God" just the day before the most holy day of the year, Christmas, the birth of Christ.

I seem to remember you mentioning that you are Catholic, Camp David, but I notice several issues on which you seem to disagree with the Pope. Issues such as capital punishment, and more importantly, the question of what is the holiest of holy days. Being raised Catholic myself, I was wondering why you consider Christmas to be holier than, say, Easter. I guess it's not really a pressing issue, I was just wondering.

Quite frankly, you can't KNOW that there is or isn't a God. You can BELIEVE that there is or isn't, but without proof on either side, you can't KNOW. It's just a belief, whether weak or firm. I'm an agnostic, so I don't say whether I think there is or isn't. There's no way to prove it. That's why religion is based on faith.

And don't take CD as representitive of Christianity. He's a twit, and I think the whole board will agree on that one.

But you were willing to post a topic called "There Is No God" just the day before the most holy day of the year, Christmas, the birth of Christ.

I seem to remember you mentioning that you are Catholic, Camp David, but I notice several issues on which you seem to disagree with the Pope. Issues such as capital punishment, and more importantly, the question of what is the holiest of holy days. Being raised Catholic myself, I was wondering why you consider Christmas to be holier than, say, Easter. I guess it's not really a pressing issue, I was just wondering.

Camp David is CATHOLIC?

I thought he was a bloody puritan that promoted murder and mutilated his children??!

thats a really nice thing to say

I am Catholic aswell

But you were willing to post a topic called "There Is No God" just the day before the most holy day of the year, Christmas, the birth of Christ.

I seem to remember you mentioning that you are Catholic, Camp David, but I notice several issues on which you seem to disagree with the Pope. Issues such as capital punishment, and more importantly, the question of what is the holiest of holy days. Being raised Catholic myself, I was wondering why you consider Christmas to be holier than, say, Easter. I guess it's not really a pressing issue, I was just wondering.

Camp David is CATHOLIC?

I thought he was a bloody puritan that promoted murder and mutilated his children??!

thats a really nice thing to say

I am Catholic aswell

What's the problem? I didn't have an impression of you being a protestant, you don't seem to come from 17th century U.S. like our dear Camp David.