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Most rational men and women will conclude that Muhammad was a pirate, not a prophet, and that a god who is principally vengeful, forgetful, contradictory, and irrational might not be a god after all.

The Judaio-Christian God is like that too.

1. SOURCE?

My rabbi.

What scary about it is that the only good muslims are those that kill those who are not muslims. So, Osama bin Laden is a "good" muslim. Those that are peaceful towards non-muslims are hypocrites and worst than those non-muslims. This is why they kill their own people.

Most muslims are the "hypocrites", thank God!

An amazing statistics is that 80% of the worlds crime is caused by muslims. Forgot where I read this but it is in there.

If you die serving Allah in the Jihad (holy war), you will immediately be sent to paradise and have 70 virgins.

Yah, but the entire 70 have to last you eternity. 

I'm down with Muhammad, he understood that alcohol is more dangerous than marijuanna and that banning bud while keeping alcohol legal is hypocritical.

More on topic- I concur, virgins are immensely overrated.

Most rational men and women will conclude that Muhammad was a pirate, not a prophet, and that a god who is principally vengeful, forgetful, contradictory, and irrational might not be a god after all.

The Judaio-Christian God is like that too.

1. SOURCE?

My rabbi.

Ah. What a wonderful, possibly non-well-versed source you have there.

What scary about it is that the only good muslims are those that kill those who are not muslims. So, Osama bin Laden is a "good" muslim. Those that are peaceful towards non-muslims are hypocrites and worst than those non-muslims. This is why they kill their own people.

Most muslims are the "hypocrites", thank God!

An amazing statistics is that 80% of the worlds crime is caused by muslims. Forgot where I read this but it is in there.

If you die serving Allah in the Jihad (holy war), you will immediately be sent to paradise and have 70 virgins.

Okay... this is for both of you.

First of all, READ THE FLIPPIN' QURAN BEFORE YOU MAKE STUFF UP LIKE THIS!!!  Islam absolutely does not suggest that killing non-muslims automatically gives you any sort of reward. In fact, most muslim scholars agree that the major terrorist attacks (especially 9-11) are a violation of the rules of Jihad and therefore will actually condemn those who did it.

Secondly, the Quran STRESSES peacekeeping with Jews and Christians, although it does condone them as being falsely led.

Thirdly, that statistic is not only sourceless, it has way too many lurking abstractions to make any sense. Who counts up the crime? Who registers the crime? What governments are giving out crime statistics? Do you really think that all countries require all criminals to give their religion while they're writing the ticket?

Finally, read the article a little closer, buddy. The idea of 70 virgins is probably Hadith, not Quran, and those it's more like a muslim myth that is some muslims believe. As I understand, most do not. It's like saying that all Christians believe in the nine circles of hell.

gasp...gasp...gasp...

C'mon, guys, you're better than this!

Really?

That surprises me since there is an enormous religious penalty for changing the text of the Quran.

Which Muslim told you that it was 'cleaned up'?
I'm just making sure you didn't read it somewhere.

That surprises me since there is an enormous religious penalty for changing the text of the Quran.

There's penalty for manipulating the Bible (like, oh, I dunno... the NIV version?), so why not?

Run, Run Run for your lives
Swiftly take cover
We're paying the price
The Sun, The Sun
The Sun is falling down
I can hear the people cry

I feel it, I see it
The End is drawing near
No one can stop what has begun

Prophet of Doom, The End is coming soon
Hear the Thunder, Thor's wonder,
Of doom, of doom, of doom
Of doom, of doom, of doom

Time, Time
There is no Time
To make it right
To see the light
Lies, Lies
Those were all lies
So now we are fighting
Yes, we must fight

The earth is quaking
We are shaking
The End is drawing near
No One can pray
And make it go away

You feel it
You see it
The End is drawing New
No one can stop what has begun

Prophet of Doom
Hear the Thunder, Thor's wonder,
Of doom, of doom, of doom
Of doom, of doom, of doom

The earth is quaking
We are shaking
The End is drawing near
No One can pray
And make it go away

You feel it
You see it
The End is drawing New
No one can stop what has begun

Prophet of Doom, The End is coming soon
Hear the Thunder, Thor's wonder,
Of doom, of doom, of doom
Of doom, of doom, of doom

And on a slightly more relevant note...

Remember Craig Winn, the founder of Value America? Back in 1999, his Internet department store had a $2.4 billion market cap. Then the stock crashed, and Winn became a pinup for 1990s irrational exuberance. BusinessWeek chronicled Winn's rise and fall in May, 2000.

Now, Winn has transformed himself into a self-styled expert on terrorism. He's working on his second self-published novel, due out in three months, called Prophet of Doom, about the allegedly murderous Prophet Muhammad. That follows his first novel, Tea with Terrorists: Who They Are, Why They Kill, What Will Stop Them, with co-author Ken Power, which portrays Islam as an evil religion. Winn says that book was based on his reading of the Koran and meetings with members of al Qaeda and other terrorists, brokered by a Mossad agent. He also says the CIA briefed him about terrorist groups. The CIA and Mossad won't comment.

Not many people are buying Winn's novel. It's no better than No. 2,514 on Amazon.com. Winn says that after the BusinessWeek story ran, he wasn't getting many job offers. "I had nothing to lose," he says. "I was the perfect person to expose fundamentalist Islam because those people play really nasty."
By Brian Grow

This does not mean that Winn is talking out of his ass, but I would certainly want independent verification for anything found on that website... Just because a man is shouting, does not mean that he is telling the truth.

Wow, stellar post, thanks!



:: Nominates message for Post of the Year Award ::

Hey Fido, thanks for doing what I should've done - added sources. I just kinda lost my temper (I've got Muslim friends).

I do it all the time. This isn't exactly a more emotionally charged topic for me, though. Like abortion or tax-funded evolutionary teaching. Things get touchy sometime.

And that's a very good question on the Bible. What's your opinion on the NIV? Or the "prosed up" version?

Slap on your tin-foil hat, but here's some examples here:

http://www.exorthodoxforchrist.com/what … cript_.htm

NIV is an owned, copyrighted translation that's up for changes at any time. That and slap on your tinfoil hat:

http://www.chick.com/information/biblev … /saved.asp

Finally, is your name pronounced "Fido"?

Yes, indeed.

Yah, but the entire 70 have to last you eternity. 

I thought that they were immediately re-virginated once you were done with them.  Was I wrong?

That'd be cool.

Um.

Yeah.

And once again, the post degenerates into a sex-topic.

Funny how often that happens on MAF.