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And NC, just for you, 'fixed' in the latest Catalysts, just out today:

"Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic: Loading the Dantooine level of the game under Windows XP no longer results in slow game performance"

You use a 9600, no?

Did they ever fix the random teleporting across the map? That was somewhat frustrating.

By random teleporting I'm 99% sure you mean the issue I was talking about: trying to walk, but getting movement in massive bursts rather than in a manageable fashion. The funny thing is, the frame rate is fine, but the characters just sit frozen, in a running stance, for maybe 10 or 20 seconds, then move a half mile or so. It was happening on my iMac 1Ghz (GeForce4 MX) on 10.3.9 with the 1.03c patch, the only setup I'd tried KotoR on. Maybe 10.4 fixed the teleporting issue, but we won't see until it'll run at all.

timealterer wrote:

I installed OS X Tiger (10.4) today and KotoR now crashes during startup... just before the main menu it seems to be. Does anybody know whether the patch will come from Aspyr, or from Apple?

This is on the final version of 10.4, right? If so, let me guess - you've got an nVidia card. ;-) I'd heard that KotOR bit the dust on nVidia cards in 10.4, so tracking this one down is pretty high on my list.

I put 10.4 on there because I was hoping it would make Dantooine more playable (on my 1Ghz iMac walking around was almost impossible... the frame rate would be okay, but characters would only walk in massive spurts all at once then stop moving... really weird and frustrating.)

The framerate isn't OK enough if you're encountering this problem. ;-) Is it only bad when you're outside on Dantooine? Do you have grass turned off?

Hi Brad!

Quite right! The machine I was using was a iMac 1Ghz with the GeForce4 MX card. Raun on 10.3.9 (albeit with the tough sticking/teleporting problem) but 10.4.0 final stops it from starting up.

I can see how it sounds like a framerate problem, but it isn't. My character will be still, in running stance (one leg up), and I can rotate the camera and other things will move, but she won't go anywhere. Then bam, she'll skit along halfway across the map, usually in the general direction I was trying to go, but not necessarily (I think this might have to do with moving the camera, I can test it more once it runs on 10.4.)

The framerate isn't great, but she'll be stuck there for many many frames, I'm certain of that. Also the movement jump isn't all in one frame, and sometimes it will continue for a while.... I'll be holding forward and nothing will be happening, then I'll watch for 2-5 seconds while she runs around at 10x normal speed and I'm trying to get it to stop. It's pretty painful (enough to make me wait and install 10.4 the first day it came out.)

It happened a bit in different places before Dantooine. The only other place before Dantooine it made things hard to play was in the undercity (around the rakghouls and outcasts), but I just held B and walked, making it playable.

When I got outside on Dantooine though, the further south I got the more annoying it got. For example, trying to navigate around the map with the water and the bridge, whether or not they were on screen, was close to impossible to go where I wanted to go. (I'm pretty patient, but after 30 minutes or so of fighting with it, I gave up.) My best attempts to cope had to do with switching to a new character once one got stuck. The character would switch instantly, and behave normally, and often walk a few steps before getting stuck themselves.

I have every option turned off (grass, shadows, etc.) and would be thrilled to be able to turn off anything else (lights, textures, anything!) just to be able to get past the area. Once there's a patch that lets me run KotOR on 10.4, I'd be happy to do some troubleshooting and more in-depth testing (it's my day job, lol)

Last edited by timealterer (2005-05-02 2:47 am)

timealterer wrote:

I can see how it sounds like a framerate problem, but it isn't.

I can see how you might think it isn't a framerate problem, but it is. ;-)

Reminds me of the time I was playing net Marathon with a friend on NetLink over a 28.8K modem.  I pushed my buttons for a moment with no result, then after several seconds I found myself teleported across the map, looking at the sky and mashed against the far wall.  Not a safe place to be a SPNKRin' but reason never stopped a cat.

Is your backpedal control perhaps "leaking", whereby unpausing makes the game try instantly to catch up to where you would be if not paused?  Are you using a joystick by any chance?

I have another problem to add about Dantooine - I've only just got the game and have only played it on Tiger.  The game runs fine up until Dantooine, but once I start walking onto the fields the strange teleporting thing happens making the game completely unplayable.  I've tried every single different setting combination in the game's settings, and nothing seems to affect the problem one way or another. 

I have the latest revision 1.5 15inch Powerbook, with the 64mb 9700 vid. card.  I wasn't expecting the best performance, but it is one thing to have bad performance, and another to not work at all even when it falls well within the minimum specs.

I think the ports fine, I'm running the windoze version and it has tons of issues and slowdowns (Athlon 64 3400+ and a GeForce 6600 GT 128MB). Great game, buggy engine on either platform.

...we want Brad to have that coronar-y.

Brad Oliver did the KOTOR port- look in the prior pages.