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#27 2005-01-02 9:11 pm
- sparkn
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
$140 includes labor.
Coming soon, and previous generation prices look very promising for the do-it-yourselfer.
Sucks, but you can get it repaired. Just don't throw it away. That would be a total waste. Keep trying Apple, just know that there are options.
For $39, I'm considering getting the Gen I screen just to have it around.
As a note, heat can also cause this problem. LCDs are also sunlight magnets. If you ever see your screen go black, get it out of the heat immediately. You run the real risk of breakage. I don't know what caused your problem, but I'm sure guessing that you weren't around when it occurred. Anyone been awefully nice and supportive lately?
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#28 2005-01-04 2:32 pm
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
I've seen something like this when we used to smack up hand held games with LCDs. I've never seen it on an iPod - on my iPod, and I've smacked this up a couple of times. I do take care of it (which is why it's still running after 2 years or more), and it's less scratched than a friend's 6 month old iPod.
I go with the rest here. Be nice. Find out why they are not going to repair it - it'll help you understand how it happened and whather you did do something wrong. You could claim on your insurance, if you have it (??).
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#29 2005-01-08 4:09 pm
- otokichi
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
If all you need is to have somebody repair your iPod's cracked display, try http://www.pdasmart.com/, should the final word be "No way, Jose!"
1G iPod: $85
2G iPod: $100
3G iPod: $140
There's no listing at the site for 4G iPods when I looked in a while ago.
This has me wondering about an "iPod for parts" eBay listing that featured a 3G iPod with a cracked LCD display. ("It's not a necessity. You don't need a dockable iPod, the 2G unit works just fine. So what if only iPods with docks use current/cool/interesting stuff." So says the practical PC side, while the Mac side casts looks of longing.) 
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#30 2005-01-09 8:34 pm
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
The screen on my cell phone did the same thing on Monday...although it took a 4x4 pickup to get it to break. I was unloading christmas trees for our annual bonfire and it must have come unhooked from my belt. Of course when we pulled in the yard with the next load, my friend happened to run it over. This is about an acre yard, and we pulled up in a different spot from the last time. What are the odds that he could hit the phone dead on with both passenger tires in that big of an area?
The best part was, aside from the screen, the phone worked perfectly and looked almost untouched.
Oh, well, I got a new camera phone now, so I guess I can't complain. Except for the fact that I was too stupid to get the insurance on my phone in the first place! 
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#31 2005-01-11 11:03 pm
Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Maybe Apple should take some of it's 6 billion dollar surplus and repair the guy's iPod - after all - he already gave them $400 for it...
And don't give me any crap about "if they do it for him, they'll have to do it for everyone" that's b.s. because most people want to use their iPod, not break it and send it in for repairs...
I got a new power supply when I was 1 month past warranty on my 867 by being polite and firm. After all - they need satisfied, happy customers!
geez...
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#32 2005-01-11 11:20 pm
- MrEddy
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Hooking you up when you just passed your waranty is one thing. Repairing an Ipod the owner obviously damaged is another.
If you bought a new Ford Taurus and then backed into a telephone pole with it, would you expect ford to fix it for free? Hell no they would laugh you off the lot. YOU broke it, thats not their problem. Fixing it would only encourage smurfs like this guy to keep expecting to have their own stupidity covered by waranty.
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#33 2005-01-12 6:20 am
Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
What I'm saying is, it's not really clear that the owner damaged it. If it's not clear to the owner, then it shouldn't be "obvious" to Apple - on a case by case basis of course - some will be more obvious than others.
If Apple repaired every single broken iPod tomorrow, it wouldn't hurt them financially...
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#34 2005-01-12 7:03 am
- knobtwirler
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
I know somebody that had his ipod in the supplied case and put it in his pocket. When he took it out later the screen was cracked. Although no doubt these things happen with force, they are also sometimes just accidents and what could be described as normal use. If you told apple that you jump around really fast like a maniac with your ipod because of the retarded silhouette commercials they had, would they have a problem with that?
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#35 2005-01-12 11:36 am
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Pockets can be a dangerous place for the Ipod if you are wearing tight clothing. It can put alot of pressure on the ipod when you sit down. The Ipod is large enough that you can put significant pressure on it and it won't feel like it is pressing into your leg enough to be noticed. My ipod spends almost all of its time in my pocket but I tend to wear clothing with large pockets that don't fit extremely tight.
I just find it unlikely that he can't figure out how the screen broke. I've dropped my ipod on concrete more than once, i've hit the brakes and/or turned a corner to fast and had my Ipod fly around my car multiple times. And my ipod has nothing more than a few scratches on it.
So I think he may have had more luck getting the screen fixed by apple if he had actually known how the screen broke. Saying that you don't know how something like that could have happended sounds like an obvious lie to me. So i'm sure apple thinks the same way.
Sure apple could fix people's ipods that they aren't technically required to fix. But, no smart company is going to do that. Apple's goal is to make money and its that simple. Every Ipod they repair takes away their profit margin.
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#36 2005-01-13 2:56 am
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Note: there is no ink in LCD screens.
It is Liquid Crystal Display so the Liquid Crystals are ink sort of
ok what might have happened is that If yo ulive somwhere wher is cold and just before you left the house going in to car or somthing like that you were charging tha Ipod It gets warm. If you carried it and walked out in the cold the glass due to the temperature difference cracked slightly. You cant see this at first it is only when the liquid leaks out of it you get the black marks. Slight hit is enough to move the shards appart you notice it could have been days between these two so you never will know really. 
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#37 2005-01-13 3:11 am
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
If you (very lightly) touch the LCD of your iMac or other monitor (not iPod or phone, there's glass covering it) you'll see little ripples or the "ink". (if you don't press for long or hold it down it should be harmless).
wooo
you guys never did that ??
it was lik 5 seconds after I saw flat panel in my life I went like uhhhhh this is fun
the old ones lcd based were better at this all goei and blurry you could swirl along in pattern of magical colors

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#38 2005-03-03 1:22 pm
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
I just had the identical experience, except I had the privilege of having to go into the Apple Store, register behind about 20 other people to talk to the 'genius desk', wait around for 45 minutes, only to be told that I was somehow responsible for the damage (and I DO have a skin AND a case) and for the privilege of spending $249 to fix it, they would gladly oblige. This is a U2 iPod, which is still currently usable, although there is, I suppose, no guarantee that this 'leakage' won't spread across the entire screen. I have had other people tell me that they have dropped them, smashed them while skiing, and various other types of abuse, and nothing like this has happened to theirs.
The worst customer service I've ever experienced.
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#39 2005-03-03 3:38 pm
Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Zander wrote:
Yes, about this "ink." Would you care to discribe it please?I don't know the exact mechanism, but I knew exactly what he was talking about right away. When an LCD breaks, some contact or other is made or not made and the pattern spreading out from the break looks exactly like ink bleeding out from it under glass.
It's not ink, but it looks so precisely like spreading ink that it's not surprising that that's how he's describing it.
I had a cell phone a while back and inadvertantly cracked the screen in two. I had to have the screen replaced, which I got done at a mall kiosk for about $20 and ten minutes. It's too bad that iPods aren't so simple.Oooh yeah I remember now. My old phone did that too... after I threw it at a brick wall. Also when you press down and rub the lcd on a cheap calculator it does that also.
I was thinking that there was an actual liquid coming out of the iPod.
The only way to get that "inky" look would be if the lcd was pushed in or hit very hard. So yeah, I understand why Apple thinks it is was "tampered" with.
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#40 2005-03-04 1:44 am
- TheConfuzed1
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Did you buy your iPod with a credit card? If so, call them up. The good ones will replace a broken or defective product if the manufacturer will not.
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#41 2005-03-04 1:46 am
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Zander wrote:
Note: there is no ink in LCD screens.
Yes, about this "ink." Would you care to discribe it please?
Maybe it's Apple juice. 
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#42 2005-03-05 3:57 am
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LOL..
You should tell them about this thread too..
They might do somthing.
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#44 2005-03-05 11:41 pm
- JackSkellington
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
I sympathize but I can't see how that could happen unless something happened to the iPod. The plastic over the screen is pretty thick and would prevent most accidents to the LCD.
Try being as nice as possible, try a few Apple stores if possible. If all else fails E-Bay....
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#45 2005-03-06 2:27 am
- TheConfuzed1
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Another option is that you can mail it to someone, with insurance, and then commit insurance fraud, claiming that it was damaged in shipping. Not that I would know anything about that... 
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#46 2005-03-11 4:49 am
- knobtwirler
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
I now own 2 iPods, and both of them are broken. My 3rd Gen 30Gb died a year and a half into its life and I may try this iPod mechanic or something. My 4 month old 60 Gb ipod now has a frigged HD that was acting dodgy since I got it. Now it won't fit more than 2.5 Gb of music on it b/c of bad blocks. I just sent to Apple under warranty. So far, I have gone from loving iPods to thinking it's not a good idea to buy one since they are so fragile. 
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#47 2005-03-11 7:09 am
- MrJ in OZ
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Even though he may have broken it himself Apple should happily replace it because
1) Customer is ALWAYS right.
2) Apple and any other company should put out durable items that have been quality tested
That way reduction on wasted NRG to make it and landfill pollution is reduced.
3) Apple should respect a good quality ethic that its customers rely on.
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#48 2005-03-11 10:57 pm
- MrJ in OZ
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Good luck anyway. I think you should give the sjobs email a try is all else fails.
*Fallacy at its zenith kids.* "Who is this "we" you keep talking about? What price have "you" paid for this war? Blah, Blah. Its hardly a "we" proposition."
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#49 2005-03-12 6:48 am
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Or send him this thread.

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#50 2005-03-14 2:08 pm
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Re: Apple won't repair my iPod and I'm pissed
Can you send in a picture of your defunct iPod to this thread?
LCD damage can *not* be blamed on the consumer if there is no point of impact established on the product. If your LCD is leaking and the glass separating the LCD form the exterior of your iFraud is intact, then this was definitely poor quality & workmanship on Apple's part (surprise).
It seems unlikely to alot of people, considering the price tag of Apple products, but Apple's products are generally of inferior quality to those of competitors who also use Chinese & Bangladeshi child labour sweatshops to manufacture their products.
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