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#1 2003-01-19 2:52 am
- candyPunk
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Command line seti
How do I run the command line version of seti in OS X? I'm pretty unix illiterate...my knowledge stops at navigating directories and showing their contents. I want the "PowerPC-unknown-netbsd1.4" right?
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#2 2003-01-19 4:16 pm
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Re: Command line seti
I want the "PowerPC-unknown-netbsd1.4" right?
Uh, no... You want to download "powerpc-apple-darwin1.2".
Then in the Terminal you will need to get into the directory, and then type "./setiathome" This runs the program, and asks you a few Q's.
After that, there are a few ways to start and stop seti@home. There are a few Dock apps that do this, two are Seti Control, and Seti Dockling. Setting them up is described in their readme files.
I had never done anything in the Terminal before, and I now have 2 instances running on my 1ghz DP with Seti Dockling controling and displaying both of them.
I hope this answers your question.
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#3 2003-01-20 1:31 am
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Re: Command line seti
A third dock app that is available on the seti site is called Seti Mania...
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/links_addons.html
...its decent does a few other functions like keeps track of your history and group standing as well as a few others.......
The major problem with it is it is extremely difficult to understand and configure unless you even moderately proficient with french.
it does somewhat attempt to translate but this is inconsistant at best, and any "read me" documentation in english is non-existant.
So like I said if you know French this is a good option, if you don't then that means I just waisted your time by even telling you that it exists.
If thats the case, Sorry.
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#4 2003-01-21 9:51 pm
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Re: Command line seti
Duh. Of course I want the darwin one. How did I miss that? No french here...too bad. Thanks both
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#5 2003-01-22 12:02 am
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Re: Command line seti
This will run SETI faster than the graphical version, right?
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#6 2003-01-22 12:26 am
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Re: Command line seti
I'm not sure how much faster it is, but it should be. no graphics, speed hit.
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#7 2003-01-22 1:39 am
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Re: Command line seti
Theres never a guarantee but it should help you get your WU's done a lot quicker profided that you dont run a lot of apps at the same time... I got about a 20% decrease in time per WU , meaning I used to be doing one in about 12 - 15 hours and now I am getting between 9 - 11 hours.....
of course this isnt real scientific yet I havent been running it that long... but so far it seems to work well.
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#8 2003-02-13 11:51 am
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Re: Command line seti
Mine used to take around 24 hours. Now they're about 15
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#9 2003-06-10 11:49 pm
Re: Command line seti
Hmm. I would have thought the CLI version would be faster as well. Not so here. I had the GUI seti client running for 5 hours and got 20% completed in screensaver mode (I log out and go to a hot corner). Using the cli from the terminal, after 5 hours I have 7% done.
Weird.
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#10 2003-06-11 8:11 am
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Re: Command line seti
Come on guys - the command line version is nearly twice as fast as the GUI version - macaddict is slipping down the table and not using the command line version am sure is hindering us.
Time with GUI version: 21 hours
Time with CLI version: 12 hours
Big difference. I wrote a little term file that i stick in my dock which loads up the CLI program and gave it a nice Seti icon. I leave it running 24/7, and minimize the terminal window to the dock
Having said that, u'll still get better performance with a PC than a mac cause seti isnt accelerated for all the pops and whistles of the G4. You may even get better performance out of a high MHz G3 than an equivalent MHz G4. Anyone tested this btw since i havent owned a G3 before
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#11 2003-06-12 6:41 pm
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Re: Command line seti
I've said it before and I'll say it again. SETI's client scales almost perfectly with MHz, and is pretty FPU depedent.
Based on most FPU benchmarks from when the G4s came out, a G4 should give about 5% faster crunch times than a same-clocked G3, but individual units vary as much as 25% on the same CPU, so it's statistically insignificant.
The only time things like bus speed or memory latency have much of an effect on crunch times is when they are incredibly bad. An iMac 233 will crunch a unit in 30 hours, but a 6100 with a 240 MHz G3 upgrade will take about 45 hours.
With the 3.03 client, this is what I get:
350 MHz = 20 hours average (MacOS 9 GUI app w/ windowshade or MacOSX CLI, G4/350, PMac 7300)
500 MHz = 16 Hours average (MacOS 9 GUI app w/ windowshade, Sawtooth G4/500)
700 MHz = 9 hours average (MacOS X CLI, eMac)
700 MHz = 9 hours average (WinNT CLI, Duron)
1 GHz = 5.9 hours average (WinNT CLI, T-Bird Athlon)
2 GHz = 3.2 hours average (WinNT CLI, T-Bred Athlon)
There is a slight slacking off between the 1 GHz and 2 GHz points, I would assume because I used DDR266 with both systems, and it's holding the 2 GHz Athlon back a bit. OCing the FSB to 2x140 MHz drops the crunch times for the 2 GHZ Athlon into the 2.8 hour range, which is entirely out of proportion to the 5% clockspeed increase. I need some PC2700 so I can up my FSB to the 166 my mobo supports... *drool*
What's really telling is that the eMac 700 and my little Bro's 700 MHz Duron turned in identical crunch times. Given that they are both SDR systems with a 100 MHz system bus (though the Duron is supposedly a 200MHz-equiv. DDR FSB) this would seem to indicate that SETI is completely clock-bound, regardless of the obscene degree of difference between the PPC 7450 and Duron designs.
So, in short, it doesn't matter what kind of computer you have, or what 'tricks' with ramdisks you try. MHz = Faster SETI@Home. Period.
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#12 2003-06-13 4:48 pm
Re: Command line seti
dvpierce, 'Ol Bondi here seems to do work units in the 21-23 hr range with the GUI client in screensaver mode while logged out.
She may not have many MHZ, but she get's me where I wanna go. Since a new DP tower isn't in the cards..well maybe it will be after all.
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#13 2003-06-17 8:34 am
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Re: Command line seti
Is there a speed hit in other apps when running the CLI SETI@home client? Keep in mind, I'm on a G4/400.
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#14 2003-06-17 4:58 pm
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Re: Command line seti
I run the CLI version of seti while i'm doing everything. Though i tend to turn it off when playing DVDs, heavy cpu stuff and gaming cos i dont want it to mess anything up.
Should be fine really. If u're worried u can get apps to change priorities for certain apps
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