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#26 2005-01-23 11:49 am
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Re: iCal 2?
Better syncing online. I want to use multiple computers to edit the same calanders, and have them update automatically. Right now, I can only 'Subscribe' to calanders, but I cannot edit them.
iSync enables this via .Mac or a WebDAV server. I use it all the time.
Also the ability to view 'schedules' online. Like I could publish certain calanders that display my work / school schedules so other people can see when I'm occupied. It would need an interface that can be viewed but not necessarily subscribed to.
You can publish iCal calendars, again, to .Mac or to a WebDAV server.
I can understand that people would like to see Apple make this not so dependent upon .Mac, but one must remember that they make money selling that as a service. So, having exclusive services like these available only to subscribers increases the appeal.
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#27 2005-01-23 11:54 am
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Re: iCal 2?
Pop-up alarms. I'd like to wake up may Mac and find a window on top to remind me of the day's event(s).
There are even pop-up alarms already. When you set an event you can set an alarm to pop up in advance. It will even play a sound for you if you like, and they work even if iCal is not running.
I think the only thing they won't do is wake your computer from sleep. I wouldn't know, I don't sleep my machines.
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#28 2005-01-23 11:55 am
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that's exactly what I need.
That's all I want..
Can't be that complicated..

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#29 2005-01-23 11:56 am
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uh.. I was replying to the sub-calendar thing..
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#30 2005-01-23 1:27 pm
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Re: iCal 2?
Better syncing online. I want to use multiple computers to edit the same calanders, and have them update automatically. Right now, I can only 'Subscribe' to calanders, but I cannot edit them.
iSync enables this via .Mac or a WebDAV server. I use it all the time.
You mean you can have a calendar on multiple computers and edit it? How do you do this? How does iSync do it with WebDAV? I just checked and there's no way to do it without using .Mac. Is there a way to fool your Mac into thinking your personal WebDAV server is .Mac?
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#31 2005-01-23 1:30 pm
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From what I gather you need .Mac or something similar. I have web space through university, but I don't think that would work.
So, um, yeah. How do you do that?
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#32 2005-01-23 10:46 pm
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Re: iCal 2?
The New Guy wrote:
Better syncing online. I want to use multiple computers to edit the same calanders, and have them update automatically. Right now, I can only 'Subscribe' to calanders, but I cannot edit them.
iSync enables this via .Mac or a WebDAV server. I use it all the time.
You mean you can have a calendar on multiple computers and edit it? How do you do this? How does iSync do it with WebDAV? I just checked and there's no way to do it without using .Mac. Is there a way to fool your Mac into thinking your personal WebDAV server is .Mac?
Yes, it does work through iSync and .Mac.
As for foolin iSync into using a personal WebDAV server instead of .Mac, it is apparently not possible, as iSync does not use WebDAV for it's authentication. My apologies for misspeaking. I had read a setup sometime ago for fooling Backup, and mixed the two in my head.
However, I did read one interesting suggestion that used an iPod as the vehicle for iCal synchronization between local machines. I don't know if this would help you.
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#33 2005-01-24 9:01 am
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Re: iCal 2?
The most glaring design flaw in iCal is this: you can't rely on the number iCal shows in the dock as being the current date. If you haven't run it after logging in it says 17. If you run it and quit it it says <whatever the last date it ran> until you logout or restart iCal.
The way it should have behaved all along: iCal displays the current date when it's running (just like a desk calendar would; that's what the dock icon resembles, so that's how it should behave) and nothing (or a checkmark or..., anything but a valid date that's wrong all but one day a month!) when it's not. That way, you can get the correct date at a glance, instead of having to check whether iCal's running in order to know what the date is.
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#34 2005-01-24 5:22 pm
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Re: iCal 2?
otter wrote:
Yes, it does work through iSync and .Mac.
As for foolin iSync into using a personal WebDAV server instead of .Mac, it is apparently not possible, as iSync does not use WebDAV for it's authentication. My apologies for misspeaking. I had read a setup sometime ago for fooling Backup, and mixed the two in my head.
However, I did read one interesting suggestion that used an iPod as the vehicle for iCal synchronization between local machines. I don't know if this would help you.
Then basically what we said earlier stands. We'd like a way to sync (preferably over the internet) that doesn't need .Mac.
Thanks, though, for looking into it. 
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#35 2005-02-09 6:04 pm
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Re: iCal 2?
Apple would be smart to make iCal a great way to sell Mac computers to Windows users who need to publish to their own website. Here is how:
1. Microsoft Outlook can export individual events as an .ics file, but is unable to export a whole calendar. It can only export the calendar as a comma separated values file (.cvs).
2. iCal should provide an easy way to import these files from Microsoft Outlook, or from multiple Microsoft Outlook computers, and merge them, and then . . .
3. FTP them, within iCal, up to the website of the small business, corporate department, government agency, park district, church, not for profit, etc.
4. There are lots of vendors of calendar products for websites, some open source, some free, and many low cost. They are mostly for Linux servers, but also for other servers such as Windows or OSX.
5. Apple could even evangelize them to write easy to understand documentation for their products, on using a Mac to assemble files exported from Outlook, as a tool to update their web calendars. This would help these vendors get more sales of their web calendars.
Cost to Apple:
Possibly some dot mac sales, but its a different market, so probably not enough to hurt.
Benefit to Apple:
1 Better calendars, and more flexibility, than Mocrosoft Outlook's "save as web page" option.
2 Good PR: Mac plays well with, and actually enhances, Windows.
3. More Macs sales into windows environments.
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#36 2005-02-10 3:17 am
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Re: iCal 2?
The New Guy wrote:
Here's one: Smart Calendars
It would be awesome if you could take a specific event from a calendar on the Internet and add it to a calendar on your local machine, and refresh them all at the same time.
For example: If you like to watch Iron Chef and Lost, you can find the FoodTV calendar on the 'net and select the Iron Chef event to add to your TV calendar and find the ABC schedule and get the Lost event and ad that to your TV calendar, and they both dynamically update at a set interval.
You can already do that, it's called subscription. check out iCalshare or even Apple's own iCal page. Of course, it has to be in the supported format which is .ics.
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#37 2005-02-10 10:49 am
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I just wish apple would come out with something that would integrate iCal, Mail, and Address Book like Microsoft did with Entourage. I don't use Entourage because I can't stand it but I do like the fact that you can manage everything (calendars, e-mail, and contacts) from that program alone.
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#38 2005-02-10 1:28 pm
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Re: iCal 2?
Thunderstruck wrote:
The New Guy wrote:
Here's one: Smart Calendars
It would be awesome if you could take a specific event from a calendar on the Internet and add it to a calendar on your local machine, and refresh them all at the same time.
For example: If you like to watch Iron Chef and Lost, you can find the FoodTV calendar on the 'net and select the Iron Chef event to add to your TV calendar and find the ABC schedule and get the Lost event and ad that to your TV calendar, and they both dynamically update at a set interval.You can already do that, it's called subscription. check out iCalshare or even Apple's own iCal page. Of course, it has to be in the supported format which is .ics.
Actually, no. You can subscribe to a calendar, but you can't pick events across multiple calendars and subscribe to *just* that event on the calendar, having it import into a specific calendar on your Mac.
I imagine such a thing wouldn't be difficult to implement. After all, .ics files are just XML. Given that each iCal event has a unique identifier, you could send an HTTP request for the .ics, look up the event, and import the event into a calendar. The only problem is possibly overloading the HTTP requests on the server if you have a lot of events spread over a lot of calendars.
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#39 2005-06-09 9:14 pm
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So how much of this did we get with the new version with Tiger?
I'm now able to print the monthly calendars the way I want. Turning off the minicalendars and calendar key actually causes the main calendar to fill the page. And we now have small, medium and large fonts.
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