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#1 2003-01-21 7:51 pm

ShnickyShnack
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ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!


U.S. District Judge John Bates said Verizon must cooperate with recording industry efforts to track down online song swappers, rejecting the telecommunications giant's assertion that such a move would violate customer privacy and turn it into an online copyright cop. 

Yahoo News Article


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#2 2003-01-21 10:20 pm

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Re: ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!

Creepy.  Glad I'm one of 3 workers at a small ISP smile not gonna happen to me. muahaha.


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#3 2003-01-21 10:23 pm

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Re: ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!

They're going to appeal. I hope they win.


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#4 2003-01-21 10:27 pm

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Re: ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!

between this and the Tax per GIG thing you told me about I am scared as hell about music and computers...  they are going to kill it...  Idiots...  They can't figure out a way to make money of it, so they are trying to kill it...


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#5 2003-01-21 10:41 pm

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Re: ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!

Unholy carp.

I hope this doesn't extend internationally.


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#6 2003-01-21 11:26 pm

mr. jingles
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Re: ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!

Which goes back to my plea. Please do not buy music from RIAA affliated bands and labels. And tell people about this. I bet your average person doesn't even know what the RIAA is or what they are trying to do to them.

I didn't know until I started reading about all this stuff. I really don't understand why TV news and newspapers don't cover this stuff.

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#7 2003-01-21 11:38 pm

Tickle-Me-Eric
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Re: ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!

because they are all ownded by the same people... or at least have similar interests


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#8 2003-01-22 12:15 am

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Re: ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!

Don't just not buy from them. Write them and tell them why you are not buying.  If a few more people just stop buying albums they'll assume you just quit buying and started downloading...

I wrote a pretty good paper on this topic as part of a final for my Mass Media and Society class last semester.  Part of it was about alternative reasons for the droop in the record industry than the ones given by the industry(namely: music trading).  One of the strongest is that research has shown that the missing 5-10% in record sales the last few years is really that people are no longer re-buying albums on CD that they had previously bought on tape or other form. When file sharing picked up they started downloading, something that isn't really illegal because they already own the album and MP3 and CD are forms of personal back-up.  The industry dosent want this, because when the next big thing after CDs hit they won't be able to charge us for the same old stuff again and again...


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#9 2003-01-22 1:04 am

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Re: ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!

Yahoo news is so cool. They have news that no other news source covers. I love Yahoo!


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#10 2003-01-22 11:24 pm

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Re: ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!

Yahoo news is so cool. They have news that no other news source covers. I love Yahoo!

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#11 2003-01-22 11:30 pm

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Re: ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!

Which goes back to my plea. Please do not buy music from RIAA affliated bands and labels. And tell people about this. I bet your average person doesn't even know what the RIAA is or what they are trying to do to them.

I didn't know until I started reading about all this stuff. I really don't understand why TV news and newspapers don't cover this stuff.

I boycott them.

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#12 2003-01-22 11:43 pm

Larg0
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From: Richmond, VA.
Registered: 2002-12-14
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Re: ISP ordered to reveal file-swappers!

Don't just not buy from them. Write them and tell them why you are not buying.  If a few more people just stop buying albums they'll assume you just quit buying and started downloading...

I wrote a pretty good paper on this topic as part of a final for my Mass Media and Society class last semester.  Part of it was about alternative reasons for the droop in the record industry than the ones given by the industry(namely: music trading).  One of the strongest is that research has shown that the missing 5-10% in record sales the last few years is really that people are no longer re-buying albums on CD that they had previously bought on tape or other form. When file sharing picked up they started downloading, something that isn't really illegal because they already own the album and MP3 and CD are forms of personal back-up.  The industry dosent want this, because when the next big thing after CDs hit they won't be able to charge us for the same old stuff again and again...

I don't know... Everyone I know has stopped buying CDs. Sure older people will still buy the CD but even they are stopping. My parents ask me to burn the CDs these days and they want me to make them mixes. My Economics class was poled and only 1 person still buys CDs. Everyone else has just stopped, choosing to burn mixes or entire CDs. Some people say that they do not like to buy a CD when they only like a few songs on it. My sister has been in college for a few years and it's even worse there. She has thousands of songs on her computer and she says alot of people at her college have more then her. I haven't bought a CD for almost a year. It is worse then you may think. At least in Richmond, VA. and Washington D.C.

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