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If you two are looking for credible information on auto safety, The Insurance Institute of Highway Safety is your best bet.

That website is biased...hence the name, find another site.

It's called www.suvrollovernews.com 

That's what it's about.  All the numbers I've posted come from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, or NHTSA.

Do you think the NHTSA is biased? 

If this site is 'biased' against anything, it's rollover accidents (hence the name).

One of the links I gave you, was from the NHTSA.

And because the site is biased against one type of thing, it can't be trusted, unbiased info is the only way I try to find things... if it can't be found that means it is for radicals.

Cyberpawz

One of the links I gave you, was from the NHTSA.

And because the site is biased against one type of thing, it can't be trusted, unbiased info is the only way I try to find things... if it can't be found that means it is for radicals.

I said their numbers were taken from the NHTSA report.  As were the ones from my second post.  Then I posted more info above.  Have you really never heard of this whole "SUV rollover thing" before?

And what was that sentence above...about 'radicals?'  What?

look at the site, and look for Rollover Occurrence, again...you will see that trucks don't have the highest percentage...in deaths...small cars do.(if I am reading this correctly)

this is to describe the def of each vehicle.
http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/manual_gr … ;groupid=B

And this is to show what it means by yes or no.

http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/manual_gr … ;groupid=A

And as for what I meant by radicals, I think I was explanatory enough.

Cyberpawz

look at the site, and look for Rollover Occurrence, again...you will see that trucks don't have the highest percentage...in deaths...small cars do.(if I am reading this correctly)

You're not reading it correctly.  While more smaller cars might be involved in fatal accidents (they would have to be, there are more of them on the road) any statistics showing rollover accidents and deaths would definitely show that SUVs and trucks rollover more than cars...I've posted several stats above that show that.

Single-vehicle crashes involving rollover accounted for 41 occupant deaths per million registered passenger vehicles in 2000 compared with 9 deaths per million in multiple-vehicle crashes.
 
and
 
Single-vehicle rollover crashes accounted for 51 percent of occupant deaths in utility vehicles in 2000 compared with 34 percent of deaths in pickups and 19 percent of deaths in cars.

That's from the Insurance Institute of Highway Safety.

Nevermind.

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/washingtonwatch.cfm = more info

Haven't you seen that commercial where the soccer mom parks that whale of a GMC between the two rows of Harleys?

The category of SUV includes everything from that Paul Hogan Subaru wagon to these monster sized trucks. It's stupid.

And i'd like to see a soccer mom with athat much control over a moster of a truck...

i had a roomate which wouldn't handle anything larger than a S10, for anything larger than that and she was terrified of parking in it...

Actually if it's a wagon, or a station wagon, it is still a large station wagon, people call it an SUV because they don't know better.

Remeber this, any SUV that is over a ton, is concidered a SUV, anything under it (kind of truck), is concidered a toy...

Cyberpawz

Well, you can make up your own idea of how to classify things all you want, but r_u was talking about the legal categories, and so was I.

Also, the commercial I was talking about isn't for, literally, a "Monster Truck," but for this really really big GMC truck with a new type of stearing (probably 4-wheel steering) designed specifically to make soccer moms comfortable driving and parking such gigantic automobiles.

heh yup, it only took US auto makers a decade (probably more actually, i know the mitubishi 3000gt had it in the early 90s) to pick up on the 4 wheel steering thing