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And alot of games such as Everquest don't run on anything but PCs which sucks. Not that I get into that but my ex plays that and when his original computer broke he was stuck with a nice 30 dollar a month contribution to keep his acct up bec he couldnt play on mine.

PCs suck though.

Don't worry, if we want to get music we'll figure out a way to get it, Windows Media DRM or not.

What on earth are you talking about?

Well at least tehy will be able to play those CDs and DVDs,  its going to be a real shame that Microsoft is limiting what you can do with the CDs,  but we might not even be able to get at that data.  Well until there is a work around. 

But if the record companies do this they will be shotting themselves in the foot.  I personaly am one of the only people left who still buys alot of music.  I don't even use CDs I just rip them when I buy them,  and listen to mp3s on my computer,  but if I can no longer rip CDs,  I'll not going to buy them,  I'll get them onto my computer though piracy.

But if the record companies do this they will be shotting themselves in the foot.  I personaly am one of the only people left who still buys alot of music.  I don't even use CDs I just rip them when I buy them,  and listen to mp3s on my computer,  but if I can no longer rip CDs,  I'll not going to buy them,  I'll get them onto my computer though piracy.

Same here... I also make duplicates for use in my car stereo. That way if someone ever decides to, say, break into my car and steal my CD's, I'm only out of a $5 CD wallet. Not $100 of CD's.

If I can't use my computer as my home stereo, then I'm not going to "buy" new music.


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i meant, specifically, the new ibooks and powerbooks look like they came from a 50s scifi movie. and, if you want to know of some recent ms innovation, the whole idea of the optical mouse comes from ms. they designed the original. andsoftware-wise, theyre more willing to try new things than apple(apples stuck with essentially the same gui since the original mac.) ms hasgone through about 4 guis, plus a 5th, new one coming up with longhorn in 2005. another example of ms innovation is the work theyre doing on creating the worlds first xml-based filesystem. no longer will there be any distinction between remote and locally stored files. plus, youll be able to dump a file intoan xml editor, and tell all the informationb about it, because xml is legible and easy to understand, not to mention portable. so theres 3 innovations from ms, would you care to give some apple examples?

ok, what was the first logitech optical? and an assembly-file system wouldnt nearly as easily integrate with remote systems.  and the if it works dont fix it logic is retarded. if people stuck with that logic, wed all still have 8088s and whatever motorolas first cpu was. and wed all still have edo ram. and wed all still have crap computers. so thats stupid logic. oh, and i never said ms developed xml. i said theyll be the first to use an xml-based [bold]filesystem.[/b]

As to why you come to a macboard and attack apple is beyond me . But then again why im even taking time to reply to a troll is also beyond me

Its not to attack apple. its to defend ms and the pc.

so theres 3 innovations from ms, would you care to give some apple examples?

Well, uh, I believe Apple was the first to popularize the GUI (even if they did steal it from Xerox. But as I understand it, Xerox didn't have a clue what to do with it, so weren't really bothered by Apple). Apple was really the first to bring style into computers, and actually make it work. They have had built-in sound capability for MUCH longer than PeeCees.

A also think that they were the first to make a laptop that connected to a desktop computer, called the DuoDock; no one has done anything with that, though, but still an inovation. They are also the first to have a Unix based OS for morons, and popularized the mouse.

In addition to all this, look at the products; when apple came out with the iMac, eMachines made a wannabe. And same with the flat screen iMac.

Oh, and it's " [ b ] [ / b ]" not "[bold]"

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and, if you want to know of some recent ms innovation, the whole idea of the optical mouse comes from ms.

No.

andsoftware-wise, theyre more willing to try new things than apple

What are you smoking?  Try new things? Apple: UNIX.  Windows: DOS.  Need I elaborate?

ms hasgone through about 4 guis, plus a 5th, new one coming up with longhorn in 2005.

So they figured out how to shape some buttons and  change some colors.  other than that, and the fact that XP is less stable, it is the same as 2k Pro.

another example of ms innovation is the work theyre doing on creating the worlds first xml-based filesystem. no longer will there be any distinction between remote and locally stored files.

except bus speeds, and how, exactley, is that different from an appleshare or webdav server?

and the if it works dont fix it logic is retarded.

Microsoft users have no experience with this philosophy 'cause M$ runs around putting out security hole fires all the time.  But hey, they dont fix it either.
Kid, I you sound to me like a 12 year old who's parents bought him a 1.3 Ghz dell with 32 megs of ram.  Research your arguments first.  By all means, refute my points, but keep it within logic.  Oh, and in case you cared, I know PCs and Macs inside and out, I've worked for a totally Windows computer place for two and a half years.

you didnt make any points. you just came up with a bunch of smart remarks that meant nothing at all. how does software affect bus speeds? and have you ever seen the win 3.1 gui? and nt/2000/xp are NOT dos based. theyre whats called windows nt, a 32bikt, multitasking, multiuser os with all the same features youll find in unix. youre the one who needs to do some research my friend, not I.