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#51 2003-01-23 7:43 am
Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
Well, they do need to hire a lawyer themselves, so that's a little deterrent. I wish McD's could use the plantiff class or their lawyers for defamation though.
Don't lawyers usually take cases like this and agree to payment only if they win?
They usually take a non-refundable retainer.
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#52 2003-01-23 7:48 am
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What would really stop a lot of these nonsense lawsuits would be to make the plaintiffs lawyer pay the defendants legal fees in cases where the judge determines the suit is frivolous.
That's not going to do it.
If awards were limited to concrete objective-based damages then that would be of benefit to all.
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#53 2003-01-23 7:49 am
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[I understand that, but given that normally-heated coffee will cause the horrible burns, and given that she should have known not to put the coffee between her knees on such an incredibly steep hill, I don't think that the McDonalds corporation should be required to pay her bills.
McDonalds coffee was shown to be about 20 degrees hotter than normal. Coffee that hot will cause MORE damage than coffee heated less. (the facts of the case are also that she was adding cream and sugar, and that the car was not moving). Whether it was a stupid place to hold the coffee or not, liquids served at a resturant should not be hot enough to cause such burns.
Again, McDonalds had settled upwards of 700 cases involving coffee burns.
Coffee heated less will cause food poisoning. Choose your poison. 
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#54 2003-01-23 9:15 am
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Coffee heated less will cause food poisoning. Choose your poison.
I think you man "can cause food poisoning." I've never heard anywhere that coffee brews into poison if not brewed in excess of X
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#55 2003-01-23 3:11 pm
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Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
Well then it's different in Mass, for I have been in vehicles that have been pulled over for the kid drinking a sprite...and given a fine...so you tell me, was he right or wrong in giving it...
I'd be fascinated if you could find some documentation of such a law...
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#56 2003-01-23 3:17 pm
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Well then it's different in Mass, for I have been in vehicles that have been pulled over for the kid drinking a sprite...and given a fine...so you tell me, was he right or wrong in giving it...I'd be fascinated if you could find some documentation of such a law...
So would I. I live right close to MA, and I'm 99.9%, no. I am 100% sure there is nothing illegal about having open containers of just any beverage in your car.
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#57 2003-01-23 3:23 pm
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So would I. I live right close to MA, and I'm 99.9%, no. I am 100% sure there is nothing illegal about having open containers of just any beverage in your car.
I cannot fathom that being an actual law that is enforced.
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#58 2003-01-23 3:36 pm
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Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
Ever think that it would of been a cop trying to get his quota *heaven for bid that ever happened*
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#59 2003-01-23 3:39 pm
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Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
Wow... first time I saw this topic I thought it said "Judge throws out obscenity law suit against McDonald's"
That could've been interesting
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Ever think that it would of been a cop trying to get his quota *heaven for bid that ever happened*
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I would like to think that, but then why did it stand up in court?
We tried to fight it in court, but the judge didn't agree to drop it, so he is stuck with the fine on his record for 7 yrs.
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#61 2003-01-23 8:46 pm
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Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
I checked the MA stats and I was only able to find this:
GENERAL LAWS OF MASSACHUSETTS
PART I.
ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT
TITLE XIV.
PUBLIC WAYS AND WORKS
CHAPTER 90. MOTOR VEHICLES AND AIRCRAFT
ARTICLE VEHICLES.
Chapter 90: Section 24I Possession of alcoholic beverages in motor vehicles
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#62 2003-01-23 11:02 pm
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Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
Anything that diminishes the role of lawyers in the world is, in my humble opinion, a fine measure indeed.
This is the finest thing I have heard all week.
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#63 2003-01-24 12:33 am
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Anything that diminishes the role of lawyers in the world is, in my humble opinion, a fine measure indeed.
This is the finest thing I have heard all week.
Its all good until you really need one.
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#64 2003-01-24 2:10 am
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Anything that diminishes the role of lawyers in the world is, in my humble opinion, a fine measure indeed.
This is the finest thing I have heard all week.
Its all good until you really need one.
And it's often worse when you get one.
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#65 2003-01-24 2:20 am
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Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
And it's often worse when you get one.
If you're accused of a crime, it is your right to have legal counsel, by law. You most definitely would not do better without one.
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#66 2003-01-24 8:53 am
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Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
If it was tried in CA, they wouldn't of thrown it out...blond bimbos, and proud peckers, that is all that is over in CA when it comes to the Judicial system...
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Given my grandfather's position as a former California Superior Court judge and my father's position as a lawyer who serves as a judge pro temp in the municipal and superior court and furthermore given the fact that he is neither blonde, nor a bimbo, nor extreme in either direction I find that statement wholly unfair.
There is more to the California judicial system than the 9th circuit court of appeals.
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#67 2003-01-24 9:00 am
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Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
Well then it's different in Mass, for I have been in vehicles that have been pulled over for the kid drinking a sprite...and given a fine...so you tell me, was he right or wrong in giving it...
We tried to fight it in court, but the judge didn't agree to drop it, so he is stuck with the fine on his record for 7 yrs.
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http://www.state.ma.us/legis/laws/mgl/90-24I.htm
The judge didn't know the state law apparently.
Open containered drinks (non alcohol, of course) are fine here in
California, but maybe its because of those blonde bimbos and proud peckers....
(Edited because I saw primenumber cut and pasted the same information above. My apology for the repeat, but perhaps this SHOULD be restated so that any confusion can be eliminated
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#68 2003-01-27 2:37 am
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Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
Thank god...I was beginning to get worried that I might get caught drinking my orange juice in my car on the way to school tomorrow.
I can't risk having that on my record.

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#69 2003-01-27 5:16 pm
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Im sure you'll be fine unless some quack judge in Mass. thinks Orange is somehow alcohol. 
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#70 2003-01-27 5:33 pm
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Im sure you'll be fine unless some quack judge in Mass. thinks Orange is somehow alcohol.
Better chance in California...
Anyway never heard of a Alabama Slammer, it's a good way of getting away by looking like you are drinking O.J.
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Im sure you'll be fine unless some quack judge in Mass. thinks Orange is somehow alcohol.
Better chance in California...
Anyway never heard of a Alabama Slammer, it's a good way of getting away by looking like you are drinking O.J.![]()
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And were the kids in your buddy's car drinking these? You still haven't pointed to any laws that specifically ban drinking regular, non-alcoholic beverages. I thought you were the one who boasted you always had proof to back up your claims?
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#72 2003-01-27 6:09 pm
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Im sure you'll be fine unless some quack judge in Mass. thinks Orange is somehow alcohol.
Better chance in California...
Anyway never heard of a Alabama Slammer, it's a good way of getting away by looking like you are drinking O.J.![]()
CyberpawzAnd were the kids in your buddy's car drinking these? You still haven't pointed to any laws that specifically ban drinking regular, non-alcoholic beverages. I thought you were the one who boasted you always had proof to back up your claims?
hey i may of been wrong with the law, so be it, but it does not dismiss the point that the kid now had to pay for 7 yrs for something that isn't on the books...
It's one thing to prove something that is possible, it's impossible to prove something like a cop having a qouta.
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#73 2003-01-27 6:38 pm
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Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
It's one thing to prove something that is possible, it's impossible to prove something like a cop having a qouta.
I doubt a cop would receive much credit for a non-existant law...I also find it highly unlikely that this would hold up in court.
Perhaps someone is pulling your leg...he's paying for 'seven years' of what? A crime that doesn't exist? How is he paying, and what does 7 years have to do with it?
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#74 2003-01-27 6:47 pm
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Re: Judge throws out obesity law suit against McDonalds
It's one thing to prove something that is possible, it's impossible to prove something like a cop having a qouta.
I doubt a cop would receive much credit for a non-existant law...I also find it highly unlikely that this would hold up in court.
Perhaps someone is pulling your leg...he's paying for 'seven years' of what? A crime that doesn't exist? How is he paying, and what does 7 years have to do with it?
A ticket if placed on your driving record, will last 7 yrs, and cost a percentage upon the diffrence of how many points from a step 9 you are upon the diffrences you pay for about 7 years, for that is how long a ticket stays on your driving record up here I believe.
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#75 2003-01-27 6:58 pm
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A ticket if placed on your driving record, will last 7 yrs, and cost a percentage upon the diffrence of how many points from a step 9 you are upon the diffrences you pay for about 7 years, for that is how long a ticket stays on your driving record up here I believe.
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...and that ticket was for what, again? 
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