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#1 2003-01-22 4:21 pm
- irohazaSW
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$100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
I recently signed up for my .mac account with my idisk and all that jazz. Is it worth it to pay the $100 for the upgrade after the 60 days? I like all the things I get with my new .mac account but $100 is a little pricey, though you do get some awesome stuff:)
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bennie
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#2 2003-01-22 8:15 pm
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
"Awesome" is pretty strong from my point of view. The recent additions of iSync and Backup don't impress me. OK, two good free games for younger kids. Virex: at the moment, an unnecessary security blanket. 100 MB of space, with bandwidth and reliability issues ( :?: ) Webmail appears to be better than the competitors and makes travelers happy.
Homepage continues to have limited formats for newsy type webpages and the pictures don't seem to fit into the spaces provided. Picture formats and movies are of sufficient quality.
Email POP features and size are good.
I give the Mac.com account a B+ at best. C- at worst considering the price and weighing for the most desirable feature --> megabytes online.
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#3 2003-01-22 8:32 pm
Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
It's worth it to me. I get e-mail and web hosting. The 2 things that I care about. And .mac integrates well with iChat and iPhoto.
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#4 2003-01-22 8:37 pm
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
If you want a website, and you don't know or want to learn how to make one, it's an awesome deal.
If you know html, it's on the crappy side of so-so.
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#5 2003-01-22 9:39 pm
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
I sign up for a trial account every 60 days.
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#6 2003-01-22 11:44 pm
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
I thought the $50 I paid for it was worth it and hopefully Apple will make it better and/or lower the price.
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#7 2003-01-23 1:01 am
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
I think the email is great. I use it all the time:
1) POP mail via Entrourage when I'm home so that I can file the emails that I want.
2) Webmail when I'm not home.
3) IMAP on the computers in my lab at school so that I can still retrieve the messages at home.
The iDisk would be great except for one problem.... OS X SUCKS when trying to use the iDisk. Take today for example. I tried to upload something before heading to school. After 15 minutes of spinning rainbow wheels and things not copying correctly I gave up and emailed the stuff. Then I went to school and I needed to update my webpage so I tried again thinking maybe it was my home connection. Well at school I was using a dual 1GHz G4 connected to a super fast LAN and I got the same rainbow wheel. On top of that, when it finally did load I had problems trying to copy items onto the iDisk. For example, I drag an item to the iDisk and the copy window pops up, moves about 1/4 of the way and then closes, never copying anything.
That was very annoying. However, you want to know what was even more annoying than that? I have a Windows 2000 machine right next to it in the lab and so I connected to my iDisk on that and guess what? It was so fast you couldn't even tell you were accessing it over the internet. That pisses me off. There is no way that accessing an iDisk should be faster with Windows than OS X!!!
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#8 2003-01-23 2:28 am
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
iDisk is awful. AWFUL. Worthless... and Frank has it right, it works better on a PC. What gives?
Also, webmail was just about as useful on my recent trip to OZ. Slow slow slow. Yahoo? No problem. I'd access my mac mail through their service.
The fact that Apple's constricting bandwidth when it's now a paying service is enough for me to give it the "tumbs down."
bah.
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#9 2003-01-23 6:46 am
Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
I've been debating this myself, I run a Mac User Group and it's often very difficult to figure out just what the options .mac needs to have before it's worth the 100$.
True my account was 50$ after my original account from a year back came to expire, but still it's a new service, and growing. Apple has for more years than I can count dedicated efforts to bringing the users exactly what they need, and while OS X's "Connect To Server" protocols that are utilized with connecting to an iDisk are very poor [try connecting to an outside FTP] the things they have planned for .mac integration with other programs is very promising.
My wife and I have an Airport network at home, she is on our iBook from the couch and I'm on the Dual Gig G4 in my office, if I make any changes to my address book, or to iCal, it pops up on her screen and she can keep up to date on the constant changing schedule we have by juggling online journalistic duties, running a MUG, and the aggrivation of meeting family for lunch. .mac in short brings our machines together under one flag, and while it is not worth it yet... I feel in time it will be.
They need to get real with the games they're offering, who gives a damn about bejeweled? Things like that youc an play for free at pogo.com. Anyway, they're working to make .mac better, so why not send in your Feedback, they do read it, and if you have enough good pointed comments, they may make those changes.
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#10 2003-01-23 8:59 am
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
Yea... I bought .Mac with my system as well, but I don't know what I will be using it for other then e-mail... but paying $100 a year just for e-mail when I can just pay $20 at yahoo or hotmail a year... I don't know... I'll try it out for a year until it expires, after that, I'll think about if it's really worth that $100.
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#11 2003-01-23 9:03 am
Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
OS X SUCKS when trying to use the iDisk.
look for Goliath on Version Tracker, now that program has made my iDisk Very usable!
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#12 2003-01-23 10:35 am
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
thanks for all your replies. I just like the fact that I can store stuff online, even though it is expensive as all get out. And I like having webmail that works with "mail" BTW, is there a reason i can't send out email in mail. It tells me its trying to connect to mail.mac.com but it always fails! Ive been receiving mail, but i can't send it.
thanks
bennie
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#13 2003-01-23 10:49 am
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
It's worth it to me. I get e-mail and web hosting. The 2 things that I care about. And .mac integrates well with iChat and iPhoto.
If it doesn`t have php mysql and a hell of a lot of bandwidth it`s not worth it for me, i host at home if i didn`t i`d go with powweb
. Other then that go with .68k with unlimited bandwidth and free email when the service is out
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#14 2003-01-23 10:57 am
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
you do know that you can make your own sites... just put them in folder in your sites folder on your idisk.
if you need the hosting space, its worth it. prices online tend to be $1 per MB per year... .mac fits in there perfectly... add the 2 puzzle games and you have a good buy. btw, i have yet to see my .mac account down.(and i run a status checker on it from remote site)
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#15 2003-01-23 11:01 am
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
OS X SUCKS when trying to use the iDisk. Take today for example. I tried to upload something before heading to school. After 15 minutes of spinning rainbow wheels and things not copying correctly I gave up and emailed the stuff.
Later, Frank
lol... get a bandwith monitor and watch the progress using that. i dont get the wheel of doom unless i'm runing more than 20 apps and using the idisk... perhaps you should get a faster connection? or more ram?
it works just fine for me. (it takes a while, but thats due to the fact that my upload stream is capped at 16KB/sec)
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#16 2003-01-23 11:14 am
Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
irohazaSW, if you can't send mail through .Mac, your ISP may be blocking access to SMTP servers. I know that AOL and CompuServe do this, but I don't know of any others that do this. These ISP's block this access and say it is to stop spamming
. Contact your provider and find out.
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#17 2003-01-23 11:23 am
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
It tells me its trying to connect to mail.mac.com but it always fails! Ive been receiving mail, but i can't send it.
thanks
bennie
The outgoing mail server is smtp.mac.com, not mail.mac.com.
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#18 2003-01-23 12:18 pm
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
crap. im being an idiot. i new it was smtp.mac.com, im just being stupid.
well i just tried it and it tells me it cant connect on port 25. I tested it on my hotmail account, but it never received it
any advice?
bennie
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#19 2003-01-23 4:27 pm
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
OS X SUCKS when trying to use the iDisk. Take today for example. I tried to upload something before heading to school. After 15 minutes of spinning rainbow wheels and things not copying correctly I gave up and emailed the stuff.
Later, Franklol... get a bandwith monitor and watch the progress using that. i dont get the wheel of doom unless i'm runing more than 20 apps and using the idisk... perhaps you should get a faster connection? or more ram?
it works just fine for me. (it takes a while, but thats due to the fact that my upload stream is capped at 16KB/sec)
Well, let's see. How can I prove to you that it was the functionality of iDisk in OS X. First I'll give you some info on the two systems I was trying to use it on:
Home system:
Dual G4 450
1.12GB of RAM (is that enough RAM?)
Cable modem (is that fast enough for home use?)
School system:
Dual G4 1GHz
512MB RAM
School LAN (very fast!)
Now, here's the rub. When I got to school and realized that it wasn't my home computer or connection and it was just as slow at school (upload or download) I decided to connect with the PC next to it that is connected to the same LAN. Well guess what? If you had read my post you would have seen that on the pc, with the same network connection at the same time of day it was instantaneous. I had absolutely no problems and it worked exactly how it should.
Now do you see why I'm a little mad? Shouldn't iDisk (an Apple product) work AT LEAST as well on a Mac as it does on a PC?
Later, Frank
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#20 2003-01-23 4:29 pm
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
crap. im being an idiot. i new it was smtp.mac.com, im just being stupid.
well i just tried it and it tells me it cant connect on port 25. I tested it on my hotmail account, but it never received it
any advice?
bennie
Yes, go to your advanced options in your email program for your .Mac email and check the box that says: "SMTP requires secure connection" or something like that.
Later, Frank
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#21 2003-01-23 9:23 pm
- irohazaSW
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
Alright, I check the SSL box in the options for Mail in OSX and it still isnt working. Any advice?
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#22 2003-01-23 11:02 pm
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
Alright, I check the SSL box in the options for Mail in OSX and it still isnt working. Any advice?
Which program are you using to access your mail?
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#23 2003-01-24 10:20 am
- irohazaSW
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Re: $100 idisk and .mac account. Worth the price?
im using the "mail" program that came with OSX
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