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#1 2005-02-28 1:27 pm

hombrerojo
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Hacking into a game's code

There are a bunch of word games that are only available in english.  I am interested in removing the english words to guess (which I assume is done randomly by the program) and replace them with spanish for my niece and other family members.  One of the games is Wild Wild Words from Gamehouse.  What app do I need to use to get into this?  Thanks for any help with this.  I am brand new to this sort of stuff.
Thanks again!

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#2 2005-02-28 1:27 pm

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

reverse-engineering/decompiling is verboten


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#3 2005-02-28 3:18 pm

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

as in I can't do it because it is not possible or because it's illegal?

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#4 2005-02-28 4:31 pm

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

uh.  illegal. you can do it.  but any software company is just as snotty about that sort of thing as they are about piracy and most, if not all, have language in the EULA spelling it out. You may not reverse-engineer/decompile their code.

Of course, there's nothing stopping you.

contact the developer, offer to help with a language port.

/me wonders why a mod hasn't locked this thread


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#5 2005-03-01 12:33 am

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

umm... i doubt that would be called reverse-engineering, og.
sounds more like localizing to me. at most, it is opening up super resedit in classic mode and modifying the datafork/strings. using resedit != decompiling or reverse engineering.

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#6 2005-03-01 12:37 am

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

You guys do know this is a hardware hacking forums right? wink lol.

See, this is the reason I wasn't all for the hacking name tongue.


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#7 2005-03-02 4:54 pm

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

You probably wouldn't have to do much "decompiling" or "Reverse engineering" If these people are smart they probably stored the words in an xml file or psuedo-database in the application package, which would be easy to modify.  However, if it is actually in the binary, then consider yourself screwed.

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#8 2005-03-02 11:35 pm

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

Why not contact the company and ask for a Spanish version? Probably real easy for them to replace the English words once they have compiled their dictionary of Spanish words.

I would say this is definately illegal as the entire program, including the source code, is the intellectual property of the company.

Or find a programming board for REALbasic. Contact someone there and show them a commercial product you like. Ask them to build something similar. A very good RB programmer should be able to wack something out in a few hours to a few days depending on their schedule and how quickly thay can obtain a dictionary list of Spanish words. A good high school student should be able to do this with RB.

A example project I made for English simply uses a plain text file containing a list of English words seperated by lines, which loads into a string variable when the program is started. The program then generates 6 random words by simply grabbing 6 random words from the string.

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#9 2005-03-03 12:10 am

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

BlueToothCard wrote:

Why not contact the company and ask for a Spanish version? Probably real easy for them to replace the English words once they have compiled their dictionary of Spanish words.

I would say this is definately illegal as the entire program, including the source code, is the intellectual property of the company.

Or find a programming board for REALbasic. Contact someone there and show them a commercial product you like. Ask them to build something similar. A very good RB programmer should be able to wack something out in a few hours to a few days depending on their schedule and how quickly thay can obtain a dictionary list of Spanish words. A good high school student should be able to do this with RB.

A example project I made for English simply uses a plain text file containing a list of English words seperated by lines, which loads into a string variable when the program is started. The program then generates 6 random words by simply grabbing 6 random words from the string.

so you think that using super resedit is illegal?

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#10 2005-03-06 2:21 pm

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

Og wrote:

/me wonders why a mod hasn't locked this thread

Why would they? If he's not selling it and is just doing it for his own personal gratification, why should anyone care?  Besides, it's not like it's some big brand name game that everyone wants to play anyways...

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#11 2005-03-06 7:25 pm

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

Sputnickey wrote:

Og wrote:

/me wonders why a mod hasn't locked this thread

Why would they? If he's not selling it and is just doing it for his own personal gratification, why should anyone care?  Besides, it's not like it's some big brand name game that everyone wants to play anyways...

they wont lock it because using resedit is not against the law, or even in a so called "grey area"

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#12 2005-04-10 10:50 am

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

There is the possibility that he is social engineering you guys into a false sense of security to extract information which he could then apply to commiting illigal acts..

dude no offence if your not, and you really wanna just change the language I'm just shooting possibilities into the breeze lol

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#13 2005-04-15 6:34 pm

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

iopossum wrote:

You probably wouldn't have to do much "decompiling" or "Reverse engineering" If these people are smart they probably stored the words in an xml file or psuedo-database in the application package, which would be easy to modify.  However, if it is actually in the binary, then consider yourself screwed.

Not necessarily - run strings on the binary.
If they are stored in the binary as strings, you may be able to alter them without breaking the binary.


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#14 2005-04-15 6:36 pm

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Re: Hacking into a game's code

Og wrote:

uh.  illegal. you can do it.  but any software company is just as snotty about that sort of thing as they are about piracy and most, if not all, have language in the EULA spelling it out. You may not reverse-engineer/decompile their code.

illegal - definitely not. Not unless you had to violate the DMCA in order to reverse engineer.

breach of contract - possibly, but many of those EULA's would not stand up in a court of law.


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