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Too pricey for duals. I was just looking at the single 533 since I could find them cheap. Then theres also the single 466 CPUs. I know 7410s clock pretty well and that they are freaken sweet performers.

Damn, you got a pretty sweet CPU, it will defeat my 900MHz 750FX even at 500MHz, but if I overclock my CPU to 1GHz, it may defeat yours even at 550MHz, it gives an 8FPS boots in UT2K4 demo (up to 25FPS) and a 100 MegaFlop boost in AltiVec Fractal Carbon.

But he can run AltiVec Fractal Carbon in no-AltiVec mode, he even said that with the extra cache, it beats mine at 500MHz?

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Well said. You must get at least 50FPS in UT2K4, right?

I know it's for AltiVec only, but I might as well tell daugger reaserch to delete the no-AltiVec function.

PowerMacMan wrote:

...what?

He can turn off AltiVec in the benchmark, you know.....

Oh, boy.

I'm not sure you'll be able to clock that 7410 to 600mhz, without also performing a hack to increase voltage to the daughtercard. I have the same 7410 in my Mystic G4, and it won't even boot at the 600mhz setting.

And by the way, there is no L3 cache, unless they've altered the card.

That aside, they do clock very well.

Sweet, thanks hawk!

Figure 600 was the max I could take things if it would boot. But still, 550 would be nice anyways since its a 7410. Bet it would make Halo playable. I remember some of the benches I saw with a 7410 and a R9200 awhile back in a PCI machine. Thing was getting better FPS than my 917/933 by over 5fps.

I know i'm gonna have to lower the L2 cache speed ratio with CPUD before I try this so I dont clock that too high right off the boot.

powerbookmaster400 wrote:

Ok, here,

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I don't know why you're showing me that since I was one of the first people to even mention comparing processors by running the Fractal Carbon with AltiVec off. Plus, we have already established repeatedly that I know far more about benchmarking and the legitimacy of various tests than you do.

You know, I may not have my avatar, but I'm still the same person posting behind the PowerMacMan moniker...

Luckily Halo seems to be more GPU intensive than CPU intensive.

My old 933MHz QuickSilver ran the game splendidly.

ironhawk wrote:

You probably know this already, but just in case, you can use Powerlogix' Cache Control X software to adjust the speed of the L2 cache. You may not need to downclock it, just to go up to 550, tho. If you do reach 600, then probably.
Halo will still b*tch about needing a 6xxmhz G4 ( don't remember exactly, just that it's over 600 ), but it will be a bit less choppy. Hell, I used to play at 400mhz... that was a fun experience.

I remember a mod which adds 12volts to a Digital Audio 733 CPU when installing it into a Mystic or Sawtooth, and it makes me wonder if it would work for clocking a DA 533 to 600...
Because I'm convinced that the inability to boot past 550mhz is a voltage issue...

I'd try it, myself, but I don't think I can reconfigure my current daughtercard anymore

Well a G4 550 or 600 would bridge the gap between my machines. Right now in terms of performance my Cube is just a tad slower than my Tower.

Not sure if that 12v mod would work here since that 733 CPU is a 7450, not a 7410. I checked before I bought and I found some ppl saying the board was designed differently. Plus it uses more power than the 7410 and with the Cube, i'd rather not press my luck too much since im running an ADC monitor. If I had one of those new Giga VRMs then of course i'd be looking at 7450s more seriously.

Think it could have just been your CPU. Thats what was always told back when I was clocking my ZIFs that not all CPUs are created equally. I just found a reference in the xlr8 database showing a 533 running at 600 but unable to boot 650.

Also just found this site: http://www.macinfo.de/tuning/tuning-g4saw.html

Hope the PLL settings and location are the same as with the DA chip. Thats been my trouble so far is finding notes on the DA chips so i'm guessing there are enough similarities between the 7400 and 7410 chips.

LoL, PBM400, I remember Halo on my iBook G3 900. It was quite playable, just a couple frames faster than my Tower, tho you haven't enjoyed it fully till you try it with some shaders on .

Nice excuse Alien . Just do whatever it takes to prevent her from knowing your real purpose .