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#1 2005-03-04 9:03 pm
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Cancelled TV shows
Allow me a brief trekkie tangent while I segue into a larger rant:
A human isolationist leader threatens to destroy Starfleet Command unless all aliens leave Earth immediately.
The above is the tagline for the last episode ever of Star Trek: Enterprise.
smurf. You know they can't pull that smurf on us. Cancelling a TV series before the writers and producers are finished with the story but after they've missed the chance to change what's in production and bring a series to a decent close... that smurf should be illegal. it's not just star trek, but a lot of the shows I've seen that got cancelled early just kind of went "blip" and then they wer-
yeah, just like that. Why do these smurfing TV people do this to us? (I know - money.) Aaaaack, pbbbt!
I'm sorry, I just have a real problem with cliffhangers...
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#2 2005-03-04 10:23 pm
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Re: Cancelled TV shows
Yep, it's all about money. I mean, these TV people may seem insane to us, but they have numbers that back all of this up. That's why I find the whole "save Enterprise" effort a little amusing. I mean, the people who are signing petitions are already watching the show. Why should UPN care if these people sign a petition - it's not going to increase the ratings for the show. And you can claim you'll boycott UPN, but do Enterprise fans really watch any of the other UPN drivel?
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#3 2005-03-04 10:31 pm
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Cynic, actually public outcry saved a doomed show once. I was just reading about it. The show went on for another 5 or 6 seasons because the studio rethought their position. Damn, i wish i could remember what show it was.
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#4 2005-03-04 10:34 pm
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Re: Cancelled TV shows
Family Guy is coing back, so whatever!
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#5 2005-03-04 10:41 pm
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Re: Cancelled TV shows
You know how many times it's come back though? Fox doesn't know how to manage crap.
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#6 2005-03-04 11:41 pm
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The Japanese at least got something right when it comes to Anime.
Planned out stories within a particular amount of time. Evangelion was supposed to last for 52 episodes, 1/4 the way through it's first season, it faltered, so the writers had to make adjustments and prepare for it to last only 26 episodes. Their latter show, FLCL, was planned to last for only 6 episodes. No more, no less.
Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
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#8 2005-03-05 12:43 am
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Re: Cancelled TV shows
Yeah, it doesn't matter what the story is about, cliffhangers suck.
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#9 2005-03-05 1:51 am
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Re: Cancelled TV shows
Unless you are watching "Cliffhanger."
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#10 2005-03-05 3:30 am
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Roswell was saved because of people sending tabasco sauce to the WB. It went on for a few more seasons after that.
Most of the really interesting shows do get cancelled, except for on HBO.
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#11 2005-03-05 10:06 am
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Re: Cancelled TV shows
Im keeping my fingers crossed in hopes that Fox puts an end to that tedious, soap-opraesque Battlestar Galactica.
Such a cool concept, such a poor execution.
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#12 2005-03-05 11:04 am
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Re: Cancelled TV shows
Donovan Osaya wrote:
The Japanese at least got something right when it comes to Anime.
Planned out stories within a particular amount of time. Evangelion was supposed to last for 52 episodes, 1/4 the way through it's first season, it faltered, so the writers had to make adjustments and prepare for it to last only 26 episodes. Their latter show, FLCL, was planned to last for only 6 episodes. No more, no less.
I completely agree. This is insane having this haphazard method keeping shows running too long or not long enough.
PS: Andromeda had a longer run than Enterprise.
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#13 2005-03-05 11:16 am
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They canceled Firefly, I was upset, but, come on.
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#14 2005-03-05 12:06 pm
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We complained and wrote in and smurf and we got the Farscape PK wars out of those tight assed bastards.
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#15 2005-03-05 3:15 pm
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Re: Cancelled TV shows
Donovan Osaya wrote:
The Japanese at least got something right when it comes to Anime.
Planned out stories within a particular amount of time. Evangelion was supposed to last for 52 episodes, 1/4 the way through it's first season, it faltered, so the writers had to make adjustments and prepare for it to last only 26 episodes. Their latter show, FLCL, was planned to last for only 6 episodes. No more, no less.
Cowboy BeBop handled this in a similar way, but I think it was probably planned at 26 from the start. I especially love the ending of the series. The only way to continue the story from then would be from an extreme bastardization, something only an American company would think of doing.
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#16 2005-03-05 3:36 pm
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What the hell happened with Titus? I liked that show!
But I bet you if the great reviews didn't pour in for Arrested Development when it debuted on Fox, it would have been canceled on the spot.
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#17 2005-03-05 4:49 pm
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It was, and then was brought back.
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#18 2005-03-05 10:52 pm
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elpato84 wrote:
Donovan Osaya wrote:
The Japanese at least got something right when it comes to Anime.
Planned out stories within a particular amount of time. Evangelion was supposed to last for 52 episodes, 1/4 the way through it's first season, it faltered, so the writers had to make adjustments and prepare for it to last only 26 episodes. Their latter show, FLCL, was planned to last for only 6 episodes. No more, no less.Cowboy BeBop handled this in a similar way, but I think it was probably planned at 26 from the start. I especially love the ending of the series. The only way to continue the story from then would be from an extreme bastardization, something only an American company would think of doing.
Cartoon Network was rumored to order more episodes.
Here's my idea for that, however. The Cowboy Bebop world is so expansive that you could take the secondary characters from the first run and have them have their own adventures. Andy... Julia... event Vincent and that girl from the movie. Just none of the main characters from the first season. Sure, popularity won't be as good from the get-go for those who just identify with Spike or whoever, but it could do the job.
i.e., I want more stuff like the "Black Dog Serenade" episode. Yessiree.
Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
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#19 2005-03-05 11:34 pm
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Fox is just waiting to faze out any good shows it has so it can run nothing but tabloid TV. Shows that appeal to the lowest common denominator with two brain cells to work with.
Who else would air a show about celebrities without their make up? Who thinks this crap up?
What's next Celebrity Garbage?
Fox destroys more good shows simply by bouncing them around so much that they never have a chance. Family Guy was destroyed that way and if it wasn't so popular on Cartoon Network or DVD they would never brought it back. Unless their is something that can be exploitive, Murdoch isn't interested.
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#20 2005-03-06 12:39 am
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JackSkellington wrote:
Fox destroys more good shows simply by bouncing them around so much that they never have a chance.
You couldn't be more right about that.
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#21 2005-03-06 1:41 am
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They have to make room for that Mullet show reruns.
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#22 2005-03-06 2:04 am
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Re: Cancelled TV shows
JackSkellington wrote:
Fox is just waiting to faze out any good shows it has so it can run nothing but tabloid TV. Shows that appeal to the lowest common denominator with two brain cells to work with.
Who else would air a show about celebrities without their make up? Who thinks this crap up?
What's next Celebrity Garbage?
Fox destroys more good shows simply by bouncing them around so much that they never have a chance. Family Guy was destroyed that way and if it wasn't so popular on Cartoon Network or DVD they would never brought it back. Unless their is something that can be exploitive, Murdoch isn't interested.
Well, that and Family Guy made fun of conservatives.
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#23 2005-03-06 11:33 am
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dvpierce wrote:
JackSkellington wrote:
Fox is just waiting to faze out any good shows it has so it can run nothing but tabloid TV. Shows that appeal to the lowest common denominator with two brain cells to work with.
Who else would air a show about celebrities without their make up? Who thinks this crap up?
What's next Celebrity Garbage?
Fox destroys more good shows simply by bouncing them around so much that they never have a chance. Family Guy was destroyed that way and if it wasn't so popular on Cartoon Network or DVD they would never brought it back. Unless their is something that can be exploitive, Murdoch isn't interested.Well, that and Family Guy made fun of conservatives.
But they make fun of liberals, too.
Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.
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#24 2005-03-06 11:34 am
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Moses wrote:
They canceled Firefly, I was upset, but, come on.
I want Firefly back, DAMMIT! Best show to come out of Fox in years, and as usual they mismanage it into a black hole.
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#25 2005-03-06 9:49 pm
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justine wrote:
Cynic, actually public outcry saved a doomed show once.
Yeah, Star Trek.
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