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#51 2003-01-24 12:48 pm

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance


#2. I don't care if my views are unpopular. Truth isn't a matter of popularity. And yes... anything that is seen as gay-positive is usually met with nasty troll attacks in this forum. There are a lot of heterosexists/homophobes in this forum and very few people who stand up against the crap.

Quit the whining.

Bratboy was taking Styers' comment out of context. The truth is that you do post about gay issues a vast majority of the time.  Pointing that out doesnt make Styer a defacto homophobe.  That was the only issue.
I wasnt attacking what you believe, I was just saying you need to relax about cramming it down our throats all the time.  You need to stop being so paranoid. There really arent all that many insane homophobes out there with their crosshairs on you.  Although the anti-homosexual drivel posted sometimes has no place here either.

My point is that I dont judge what you write based upon your sexuality unless you are trying to beat me over the head with it in the context of your post.  Ease up. Follow your own advice about the whining.


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#52 2003-01-24 12:51 pm

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance

Getting back to off-topic (  big_smile ), I have found that most (male) people who are "disgusted by homosexuality" are completely hypocritical.  I mean, c'mon, you're telling me you haven't watched lesbo porn?

I have never watched lesbo porn, or any porn for that matter, its not my style.

I was talking about people in real life, not hinting anything about people on this forum. 

And I find that very, very, very, very hard to believe.

Do you find lesbian acts as disgusting as gay acts?
(I sure as hell don't...)[/i][/b]

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#53 2003-01-24 12:55 pm

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Getting back to the topic, I have been called "a p.c. freak" by others, (not in this forum) but I find absolutely nothing anti-homosexual about this game.  It's like called GTA3 sexist because you can beat up hookers.

But I haven't played the game.

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#54 2003-01-24 12:57 pm

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance

Getting back to off-topic (  big_smile ), I have found that most (male) people who are "disgusted by homosexuality" are completely hypocritical.  I mean, c'mon, you're telling me you haven't watched lesbo porn?

I have never watched lesbo porn, or any porn for that matter, its not my style.

I was talking about people in real life, not hinting anything about people on this forum. 

And I find that very, very, very, very hard to believe.

Do you find lesbian acts as disgusting as gay acts?
(I sure as hell don't...)[/i][/b]

Good point Slade.  I think you are right, most heterosexual males find male-male sex to be disgusting and yet find female-female sex to be a exciting.  Why is that?  Im not professing to know the answer.  I think its an interesting question, perhaps one for another topic.


The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. -Friedrich Nietzsche

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#55 2003-01-24 2:19 pm

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Thankfully, not all homosexuals are idiots like you.

That is uncalled-for, trollish, and is totally backwards.  You seem to be asserting that your behavior is doing something to promote and advance homosexual rights while he is a conformist.  Your behavior does little but stir up more homophobia and resentment.  If what you are trying to do is open people's eyes to the fact that homosexuality is not a great evil, then you are going about it in a very antagonistic way that will not serve your agenda well.  Ease up.  Stop insulting people.  Not everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot and/or a bigot.


The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. -Friedrich Nietzsche

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#56 2003-01-24 4:34 pm

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance

Oh shut up.

Why don't you focus on idiots with their "poop chute" comments?

That would be a start.


"I think you are right, most heterosexual males find male-male sex to be disgusting and yet find female-female sex to be a exciting. Why is that? Im not professing to know the answer. I think its an interesting question, perhaps one for another topic."

They're heterosexual. What a mystery...


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#57 2003-01-24 4:44 pm

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance

Oh shut up.

tongue

Why don't you focus on idiots with their "poop chute" comments?

That would be a start.

I havent seen any today. Point them out and I will fire away.


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#58 2003-01-24 5:52 pm

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance

Getting back to off-topic (  big_smile ), I have found that most (male) people who are "disgusted by homosexuality" are completely hypocritical.  I mean, c'mon, you're telling me you haven't watched lesbo porn?

I have never watched lesbo porn, or any porn for that matter, its not my style.

I was talking about people in real life, not hinting anything about people on this forum. 

And I find that very, very, very, very hard to believe.

Do you find lesbian acts as disgusting as gay acts?
(I sure as hell don't...)[/i][/b]

Good point Slade.  I think you are right, most heterosexual males find male-male sex to be disgusting and yet find female-female sex to be a exciting.  Why is that?  Im not professing to know the answer.  I think its an interesting question, perhaps one for another topic.

Well... you don't (I don't, at least) hear or see of many female-female "affairs" where the poop-chute is the primary focus...

Wow, you really seem to be down on this one sexual act... is everything but missionary position banned where you come from?

Guess what.  Anal sex is performed by a diverse group of people, and it won't stop until the end of mankind.  Get over it.  No one care's about your idiotic squemish notions.

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#59 2003-01-24 8:51 pm

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Wow, no need to be so PC.  So anal sex makes his skin crawl.  Isnt he entitled to his opinion on the subject?   It doesnt do much for me either, so what, each to his/her own. But as you pointed out the group people who have anal sex is diverse and certainly not made up exclusively of homosexuals.  So I dont think his aversion to anal sex necessarily makes him a homophobe.


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#60 2003-01-25 6:35 am

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Wow, no need to be so PC.  So anal sex makes his skin crawl.  Isnt he entitled to his opinion on the subject?   It doesnt do much for me either, so what, each to his/her own. But as you pointed out the group people who have anal sex is diverse and certainly not made up exclusively of homosexuals.  So I dont think his aversion to anal sex necessarily makes him a homophobe.

Didn't say he was homophobic.

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#61 2003-01-25 3:20 pm

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance

It's just a video/computer GAME, jeesh. I guess when they bring out the SIMS "Redneck" or "KKK" extension pack then maybe there might be some valid complaints. I play Return to Castle Wolfenstein a lot...I shoot Nazi's (male and female), zombies, monsters, and civilian scientists (on their knees as they beg for mercy), does that mean I'm going to go out into the streets of Chicago and mow down intellectuals and socialist democrats? I don't think so, afterall it's just a GAME!

Please don't judge all homosexuals by what XYZ posts--some of us actually have lives, and brains which we use to rationally define our place in society.

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#62 2003-01-25 9:15 pm

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Didn't say he was homophobic.

The last line wasnt aimed at you Slade.  wink


The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. -Friedrich Nietzsche

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#63 2003-01-27 1:53 am

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Which is exactly why I asked him for a link, but since he didnt want to get one we should just disregard that number all together.

Because of the nature of how homosexuals are treated and thought of by much of society, figuring out this number would be impossible.  It's an estimate.

Obviously, there are a lot.


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#64 2003-01-27 1:55 am

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance

primenumber wrote:


Bratboy was taking Styers' comment out of context. The truth is that you do post about gay issues a vast majority of the time.  Pointing that out doesnt make Styer a defacto homophobe.

I said that, not even because of the topic here, but because of a conversation I had with Styer in another thread...where he basically called himself this.

I assumed that he misunderstood the meaning of the word.


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#65 2003-01-27 2:32 am

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you know, i could realy go for some hot girl on girl action.


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#66 2003-01-27 8:13 am

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I said that, not even because of the topic here, but because of a conversation I had with Styer in another thread...where he basically called himself this.

I assumed that he misunderstood the meaning of the word.

I know what the word means but I thought if I dont like it too much then a homophobe wouldnt either.


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#67 2003-01-27 8:34 am

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you know, i could realy go for some hot girl on girl action.

Heh.   It's sort of strange isn't it... how heterosexual girls don't watch gay porn....

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#68 2003-01-27 2:00 pm

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"It's sort of strange isn't it... how heterosexual girls don't watch gay porn...."

Men are aroused by images. Women are aroused by other things. Men and women are very different. There's a reason why relatively few women have PlayGirl and even fewer have hardcore mags and videos.

Still photos work for me better than videos. There are too many elements in a video that are turn-offs, usually. With photos, you can find some that are truly great. Either the photo itself is enough, or the photo plus some fantasizing.

I almost never watch gay porn, and very seldom watch bi porn. Photos are a quick fix, though.

I think most women prefer intimacy with a real person to the point of being disinterested in "pornography."

Women have complained about men and their porn for a long time. However, modern women are more likely to tolerate it as a supplement


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#69 2003-01-27 2:13 pm

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Heh.   It's sort of strange isn't it... how heterosexual girls don't watch gay porn....

Heterosexual men don't watch 'lesbian' porn either. They watch straight porn with 2 women in it. Just because some promoter calls it 'lesbian action' don't make it so. That's like insisting you're drinking real orange juice when you're only drinking Tang: sugar water with fake flavor.

Do you know any lesbians, Slade? (That's a question, not an insult.) Do they EVER look like the rubber boob types with the big hair, 2 pounds of make-up, 3" long nails and  6" stilletos that populate these so-called 'lesbian porn' videos?

Ellen Degeneres,
Lilly Tomlin,
Lea Delaria,
kd lang...

Just a few examples of what REAL lesbians tend to look like. Though they can all get "dressed up" pretty nice, they are certainly not 'lesbian porn' types.

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#70 2003-01-27 2:28 pm

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Heh.   It's sort of strange isn't it... how heterosexual girls don't watch gay porn....

Heterosexual men don't watch 'lesbian' porn either. They watch straight porn with 2 women in it. Just because some promoter calls it 'lesbian action' don't make it so. That's like insisting you're drinking real orange juice when you're only drinking Tang: sugar water with fake flavor.

Do you know any lesbians, Slade? (That's a question, not an insult.) Do they EVER look like the rubber boob types with the big hair, 2 pounds of make-up, 3" long nails and  6" stilletos that populate these so-called 'lesbian porn' videos?

Ellen Degeneres,
Lilly Tomlin,
Lea Delaria,
kd lang...

Just a few examples of what REAL lesbians tend to look like. Though they can all get "dressed up" pretty nice, they are certainly not 'lesbian porn' types.

Jeez, I hope I'm not coming across as some sort of porn addict.  blush .  I have a few downloaded files, not much else... Generally, I think that porn stars are disgusting (40% plastic and 60% flesh not especially appealing), and I'm not a fan of Jenna Jameson and all the barbie-lookalikes.  It's merely escapism for some of those truly smurfy days...  neutral

Anyway, yes I do know some lesbians, and neither of them are especially attractive, or are they people who come across as "sex addicts."  I don't have any notions of lesbians being these kinky sexaholics or anything.  I just was trying to show how hypocritical it is for some people to bash gays and then watch lesbianism and enjoy it immensely.

Most male homophobes aren't anti-homosexual really, they're just against gay men.  Funny isn't it?

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#71 2003-01-27 2:59 pm

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance

I said that, not even because of the topic here, but because of a conversation I had with Styer in another thread...where he basically called himself this.

I assumed that he misunderstood the meaning of the word.

I know what the word means but I thought if I dont like it too much then a homophobe wouldnt either.

This is what the dictionary definition of 'homophobia' is, Styler:

[b]ho


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#72 2003-01-27 4:23 pm

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance

I said that, not even because of the topic here, but because of a conversation I had with Styer in another thread...where he basically called himself this.

I assumed that he misunderstood the meaning of the word.

I know what the word means but I thought if I dont like it too much then a homophobe wouldnt either.

This is what the dictionary definition of 'homophobia' is, Styler:

[b]ho


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#73 2003-01-27 4:41 pm

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance

Exaclty why im not it. I dont fear them.

Dont hate the player, hate his game.

Well you couldn't blame me for thinking you were labeling yourself as one in the other thread on the issue.


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#74 2003-01-27 5:06 pm

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Re: Psychotic games for bigots receiving resistance

Most male homophobes aren't anti-homosexual really, they're just against gay men.  Funny isn't it?

Uh...you realize this is an oxymoronic and contradictory statement? Homophobes are by definition "anti-homosexual" most often violently so, what their true motivations are is anyones guess but they are quite a bit more than just "against gay men" if they're beating one up.

Rainbowz is correct in that those "lesbian" videos are not true lesbians but just promoted that way. Two lesbians would want nothing to do with a man sexually anymore than two gay guys would want a woman to join in--and it's more than just a question of possessing the relevant equipment.

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#75 2003-01-27 5:27 pm

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What about a kiddie porn game? How about a game where a man can cut open a pregnant woman and eat the baby?

What about a game where men can rape women and then slice them open?

(OK, back on topic if there still is one) What about them? Are you advocating some kind of censorship? The same First Amendment that allows you (us) to be pro-homosexual and vocal about it also protects those with the opposing view. Would those games be in poor taste? Yes. Would I buy them? No. Should they be prohibited from selling them? Of course not-to each his own, we're all free to make our own decisions and the three ways we have to do that (in the USA) is with our vote, our wallet, and our feet.

All you need now is someone with cheese and crackers--because you got the whine covered.   big_smile

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