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#1 2005-03-12 11:38 pm
- TheConfuzed1
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Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
Okay, I know that you guys will be jumping at the chance to be the first one to answer this, in an attempt to prove your geekiness... At least, I hope so. 
As mentioned in this thread, system.log has taken over my hard drive. It lives here:
Panther/private/var/log/System.log
Please tell me how to kill it. Thank you, drive through. 
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#2 2005-03-13 2:31 am
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#3 2005-03-13 2:31 am
Re: Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
explanation lives in ur hdd.
man sudo
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#4 2005-03-13 2:57 am
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Re: Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
How do I execute it? I get that I have to enter "sudo" into the terminal. But then what?
man sudo does not explain this. 
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#6 2005-03-13 11:13 am
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Re: Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
Or, I could just post it here.
1. Open Terminal.
2. Type "sudo rm /private/var/log/System.log"
3. Hit return.
4. Type in your password.
5. Hit return.
Done!
Actually, there's one more step:
6. Learn to use the Terminal, or get a friend who can.
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#7 2005-03-13 11:37 am
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Re: Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
Thank you so much skymt! That exactly what I was looking for!
I would absolutely like to learn more about the terminal and how these things work. Is there a particular book that you would recommend for someone to start from scratch?
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#8 2005-03-19 7:39 am
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Re: Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
just a note:
rm is forever
sudo rm is forever + smurf'tmeantodothat(sometimes)
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#9 2005-03-19 1:56 pm
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
system.log is supposed to get rotated and compressed when the "daily" cron task is run.
it's handy to look at that log if weirdness has been occurring on your machine.
if your daily has not been run for a while, then do this in the terminal:
sudo periodic daily
likewise:
sudo periodic weekly
and:
sudo periodic monthly
< *wait for each command to complete before issuing the next command. >
you could install anacron (apple's download site) and the tasks will be run, even if your computer has been asleep or off during the scheduled times for these scripts, when your machine becomes active again.
or,
you could edit the crontab file so that the scripts are run at a time when your machine is normally on and awake.
use "cronnix" for this if you like gui tools. 
there are a number of gui utilities that will let you run these three tasks (as well as other system maintenance routines...) "on demand."
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#10 2005-04-05 5:21 am
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Re: Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:
system.log is supposed to get rotated and compressed when the "daily" cron task is run.
it's handy to look at that log if weirdness has been occurring on your machine.
if your daily has not been run for a while, then do this in the terminal:
sudo periodic daily
likewise:
sudo periodic weekly
and:
sudo periodic monthly
< *wait for each command to complete before issuing the next command. >
you could install anacron (apple's download site) and the tasks will be run, even if your computer has been asleep or off during the scheduled times for these scripts, when your machine becomes active again.
or,
you could edit the crontab file so that the scripts are run at a time when your machine is normally on and awake.
use "cronnix" for this if you like gui tools.
there are a number of gui utilities that will let you run these three tasks (as well as other system maintenance routines...) "on demand."
can i delete crontab or rename it to hide it from the system thereby ending automation of these maintenance tasks so that i can just do them myself when i feel like it or is crontab essential to the system integrity? why does a file named "crontab" work as a command scheduler anyway? does it have to do with what it is named? why is it named crontab anyway? why isn't it called something else?
thanks in advance.
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#11 2005-04-05 11:29 am
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Re: Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
trying to disable cron execution by deleting any files named crontab would be a bad idea. rather you should edit the crontab file by commenting out lines and then refresh the crontab. man cron and man crontab for more info.
also, I'd say it's a bad idea to run them when you feel like it. running them too often or not often enough are equally bad or harmless. in general, they're run at specific times for a reason
if you want to examine the output you can browse /etc/var/log/weekly.out etc. I think that's the location anyway. just open console.app and browse away.
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#12 2005-04-05 11:34 am
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Re: Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
well as far as how frequently you run them i've heard it doesn't really hurt to run them all several times a day if you want. i think they said that on the macjanitor site. thanks for the help with my other topics btw. you must have just woke up and saw all my new posts huh? i've noticed some of your other replies on other topics and you are a good help. hope you have a nice day.
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#13 2005-04-08 3:21 am
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Re: Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
greenscreen76 wrote:
well as far as how frequently you run them i've heard it doesn't really hurt to run them all several times a day if you want.
It depends on what you mean by "hurt". The scripts (particularly weekly & monthly) make some assumptions about how frequently they run. Also, there are a set number of retained "rolled" (compressed archived) logs before they are deleted, which will limit what can be done to research issues. For example, the daily job keeps eight (compressed) versions of system.log, to let you look back through a week to track down issues. If you run periodic daily eight times in a day, you no longer have the ability to look back to even the previous day.
Basically, the scripts are designed and tuned for execution on a specific frequency. No, you probably won't break anything if you run them more often, but it isn't helpful.
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#14 2005-04-22 2:39 pm
Re: Deleting a File That Is Owned By Root
skymt wrote:
Or, I could just post it here.
1. Open Terminal.
2. Type "sudo rm /private/var/log/System.log"
3. Hit return.
4. Type in your password.
5. Hit return.
Done!
Actually, there's one more step:
6. Learn to use the Terminal, or get a friend who can.
^ should have been the first reply. ^
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