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BenTWriter · 2003-01-25 10:40 pm

Alright, I know being a teen ain't easy, hell I know that first had being one myself. I'm also a very serious musician(classical trumpet and vocal performance) and know how much of a pain it can be to be different. I was just interested to see if others shared my view on this. For a little background on me, I'm from a wealthy suburban neighborhood where people tend to focus more on materials than character and kids drink too much as well as too often (not that I'm against a good stern shot of something every now and then to unwind) and don't put enough effort into shaping thier future. It seems like our generation is hopeless and will aide coorperate domination and ruin the earth as I know it. What to you think?
Cheers,
Me

electric27 · 2003-01-25 10:56 pm

I think you need to have a few more stern shots. Sure, you people can try to reshape the future, I'd rather just sit back and watch the bottom drop out.

Tria · 2003-01-25 11:00 pm

Being different is never easy. It's not just about being a teen.

Being overweight or underweight isn't easy.
Being smart isn't easy if you're with people who feel threatened, or surrounded by arrogance.
Being stupid isn't easy if you're surrounded by people who can't understand you.

Ad infinitum.

And as for people who haven't got clear futures... They'll figure it out in college and if they don't, they'll work at Mervyns or some place for the rest of their lives. Their lives have just as much meaning as one that is lived in the persual of art, as long as they are happy.

As for corprate domination... Well, nobody likes a monopoly, but I see nothing wrong with a free market.

(Can anybody tell I'm a fan of objectivism? tongue )

[MA]PaveHammer · 2003-01-25 11:08 pm

and there are not enough of us teens out there who have aspirations, hell even a willingness, to join the military and serve this nation

benightedbastard · 2003-01-25 11:31 pm

Dude, they're teens. There's no obligation to be planning one's future at that age.

SwisSlesS · 2003-01-25 11:44 pm

Being a teen is just about chillin'. It sucks to ruin that by thinking too much about what lies ahead. You need to just live in the moment as a teen, you have your whole life to actually have to think about this kind of stuff.

PowerMacMan · 2003-01-25 11:53 pm

Well, I dont know about you guys, but I feel that life sucks right now because I dont know what I want to do with myself yet. And thinking about it doesnt seem to help much...

[MA]PaveHammer · 2003-01-25 11:58 pm

Granted, yeah, I goof off as much as I can.

But still some consideration must be given to the future. SOME

benightedbastard · 2003-01-26 12:23 am

I think that a teen's consideration of the future should primarily be to make sure they can have one.

[MA]PaveHammer · 2003-01-26 1:00 am

very well put cool

delta wolph · 2003-01-26 1:23 am

i wish i enjoyed life more, but i cant.
its a chemical imbalance or something liek that

atodd · 2003-01-26 4:09 am

I wish I could enjoy life more, but I can't without (possibly) ruining it simultaneously. It would be impossible.

Damned mosquitos.

Tria · 2003-01-26 10:36 am

I don't see what's wrong with attending a community college... At least it's an attempt at higher education. And if you transfer into a 4-year, things are going pretty well.

Hehe tongue

SwisSlesS · 2003-01-26 11:16 am

Well, let me qualify. There's nothing wrong with it for exactly what you said. But there is something wrong when you talk all big and act all cool then just go on to get an associates degree in something dumb and go on to lead a mediocre life.

Hey, mediocrity is what this country is based on.

Hehe, j/k wink .

electric27 · 2003-01-26 11:27 am

PaveHammer"]and there are not enough of us teens out there who have aspirations, hell even a willingness, to join the military and serve this nation

I wouldn't willingly serve in the military as it is now. Under both the Clinton and Bush administrations, the military has been nothing but the President's boyscouts, weather they're diverting attention from a scandal or trying to make a President look like he's doing something, there's accually no need to occupy another country now. Everyone's just getting pissed at the good ole U.S. of f*ckin' A. I'm not really a pacifist, although I certainly favor peaceful nagotiations as opposed to killing some people, but I have no willingness to serve the country right now until it shapes up.
Edit: Besides, what teen WANTS to join the military so they can die in some distant land for no reason? I guess that's what I was getting at all along.

Tria · 2003-01-26 1:18 pm

My flame war-o-meter is off the scale... We either have a large stash of plutonium nearby or it's time to whip out the asbestos...

[MA]PaveHammer · 2003-01-26 3:01 pm

PaveHammer"]and there are not enough of us teens out there who have aspirations, hell even a willingness, to join the military and serve this nation
I wouldn't willingly serve in the military as it is now. Under both the Clinton and Bush administrations, the military has been nothing but the President's boyscouts, weather they're diverting attention from a scandal or trying to make a President look like he's doing something, there's accually no need to occupy another country now. Everyone's just getting pissed at the good ole U.S. of f*ckin' A. I'm not really a pacifist, although I certainly favor peaceful nagotiations as opposed to killing some people, but I have no willingness to serve the country right now until it shapes up.
Edit: Besides, what teen WANTS to join the military so they can die in some distant land for no reason? I guess that's what I was getting at all along.

This Teen would.

Call me an idealist if you want, but I'm really not. I love this country, no matter what superficial flaws we have because of an imperfect president. I beleive that fighting (and if so necessary; dying) for your country is the greatest honor a citizen can have. And it's an honor one can bestow upon themselves.

Rukh · 2003-01-26 3:33 pm

i really don't think being a teen is that hard at all.

all that crap about going through hard times doesn't all of a sudden happen when you turn 13, and it doesn't end when you're 20.

people grow up. continously.

no one part of life is any harder than another.

and really.. being a teen often means the freedom to do what you want without the worries of supporting yourself. to me, that sounds easier than a lot of things.

you're not getting any younger. have a good time when you can.

and really, what good is looking forward to tomorrow if you're not enjoying yourself today. don't cry about how it'll be better eventually. make do with where you are.

Malkin · 2003-01-26 3:47 pm

no one part of life is any harder than another.

I don't know about your life, but that statement most certainly does not apply to my life.

benightedbastard · 2003-01-26 5:14 pm

I think he meant it as a general statement related to age, not circumstance.

Malkin · 2003-01-26 5:17 pm

I think he meant it as a general statement related to age, not circumstance.

And I would still disagree.

[MA]PaveHammer · 2003-01-26 6:01 pm

PaveHammer"]and there are not enough of us teens out there who have aspirations, hell even a willingness, to join the military and serve this nation
I wouldn't willingly serve in the military as it is now. Under both the Clinton and Bush administrations, the military has been nothing but the President's boyscouts, weather they're diverting attention from a scandal or trying to make a President look like he's doing something, there's accually no need to occupy another country now. Everyone's just getting pissed at the good ole U.S. of f*ckin' A. I'm not really a pacifist, although I certainly favor peaceful nagotiations as opposed to killing some people, but I have no willingness to serve the country right now until it shapes up.
Edit: Besides, what teen WANTS to join the military so they can die in some distant land for no reason? I guess that's what I was getting at all along.
You know who has to do with what the military does or their policies? You do. Well maybe not you, only if you can vote. What consistantly makes me mad is people compalining about the military because of something that was decided by civilians. DADT? Clinton's policy. Kosovo? Iraq? Bosnia? All has to do with the elected president. ELECTED. I've already committed to joining the military, its not about having the guts, its about having the smarts.

Thank you very much for correcting my serious omission. You are very correct, the militry gets smurf on by uninformed civilians. All because they did they're duty; the duty to follow the orders of the Commander and Chief.

Politicians tarnish the honor of the Armed Forces, and the Armed Forces are blamed...

[MA]PaveHammer · 2003-01-26 7:23 pm

True, but it seems that the civilians that are placed to run the military have no notion for strategic thought. And whether they do or not, they have their own agendas. And seem to only respect the military when the nation is at war. And a real war mind you, not a war against an intangible noun.

Rukh · 2003-01-26 11:56 pm

I think he meant it as a general statement related to age, not circumstance.

that's most definitely how i meant it bb.

and malkin, i justify this in that i feel that no matter your age i think you'll have to deal with problems. each of these problems will cause stress, and wear on you. and in comparison to your ability to deal with these problems at each given time i think that you'll be equally able to handle them.

maybe when you were 6 you got in a fight with a friend and didn't talk for a week. this could have been terrible for you at the time.

then when you were sixteen maybe you had a bad breakup with a significant other. and you had the stresses of high school pulling you down.

then in your thirties you might be paying off your mortgage, thinking about raising a family, and whatever else.

i just don't think that any one of these is any harder on you considering the stage you'd be at during that given moment.

each might hurt. or be stressful. but none moreso than any other.

and i DEFINITELY don't think that being a teen could possibly be the hardest thing i'll ever do.

Aonic · 2003-01-27 12:05 am

PaveHammer"]and there are not enough of us teens out there who have aspirations, hell even a willingness, to join the military and serve this nation

oh you've got to be kidding me. join the military? do you realize how stupid of an idea that is?

this country is going to hell with bush at the helm. we have no place invading and occpupying iraq and afghanistan, and everyone knows it. you would have to kill me before you sent me out onto the field of battle, and i'd die either way, but at least that way i wouldn't have to do something i'm against.

and on a brighter note, i'd like to think i'm working towards making a difference in my future... i'm part of the harker robotics team, and we work on stuff for the FIRST Robotics Competition, which is ubercool smile

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