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BTW: it's "speech" not S-peach, unless you have a lisp and are referring to fruit.

Seems that Saddam may need to buy a high quality misses proof bunker if he doesn't get his act together soon...

BTW, latest polls on CNN...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/27/sprj.i … index.html

Go to view, and you will see so far looks like about 75% of the people state that Iraq hasn't done enough to keep from being invaded....

I agree btw...

On that same note from the speech...

Iraq has failed to account for large quantities of VX poison gas and anthrax it claims to have destroyed.

VX makes Sarin seem like a walk in the park kiddies...

Cyberpawz

And both look like the flu compared to Nuclear Weapons.  Pity we're not giving North Korea anywhere near as much attention as Iraq.

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I can't watch it. Would someone be kind enough to keep me informed?

Seems that Saddam may need to buy a high quality misses proof bunker if he doesn't get his act together soon...

BTW, latest polls on CNN...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/27/sprj.i … index.html

Go to view, and you will see so far looks like about 75% of the people state that Iraq hasn't done enough to keep from being invaded....

I agree btw...

On that same note from the speech...

Iraq has failed to account for large quantities of VX poison gas and anthrax it claims to have destroyed.

VX makes Sarin seem like a walk in the park kiddies...

Cyberpawz

And both look like the flu compared to Nuclear Weapons.  Pity we're not giving North Korea anywhere near as much attention as Iraq.

Actaully a nuclear weapon is more humane...It's over faster.

Cyberpawz

Seems that Saddam may need to buy a high quality misses proof bunker if he doesn't get his act together soon...

BTW, latest polls on CNN...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/27/sprj.i … index.html

Go to view, and you will see so far looks like about 75% of the people state that Iraq hasn't done enough to keep from being invaded....

I agree btw...

On that same note from the speech...

Iraq has failed to account for large quantities of VX poison gas and anthrax it claims to have destroyed.

VX makes Sarin seem like a walk in the park kiddies...

Cyberpawz

And both look like the flu compared to Nuclear Weapons.  Pity we're not giving North Korea anywhere near as much attention as Iraq.

Actaully a nuclear weapon is more humane...It's over faster.

Cyberpawz

But it kills more people.  If you're hit with bio/chem weapons, you can just shoot yourself at least. 

Nuclear Weapons are far, far more deadly.  Yet we care more about empty chemical warheads.... why?

And both look like the flu compared to Nuclear Weapons.  Pity we're not giving North Korea anywhere near as much attention as Iraq.

But, I have to ask why should we even care about North Korea? OK, so they have a few nukes-what are they going to do with them? Fire one off at South Korea-they're the only ones even talking to the North now and the half-life of that nuke will render the south pretty much unusable for the next 500 years or so. Any target that NK picks in their region will surely result in their total anniliation by China, Russia, India or the US. Who wants a cloud of nuclear dust swirling overhead from your neighbors whacked out tirade?

The only real fear is if NK decides to sell one of them to an interested 3rd party like al Queda-now that would be nasty and I would predict a swift anniliation by China, Russia, India or the US would follow.

What the hell is Iraq going to do with chemical warheads?  It's the same situation as NK.  If they use the weapons, then there would be complete destruction...  Nuclear weapons are more dangerous, however, and whereas Iraq used to be American ally, NK has never been anywhere near friendly with the U.S.

And both look like the flu compared to Nuclear Weapons.  Pity we're not giving North Korea anywhere near as much attention as Iraq.

But, I have to ask why should we even care about North Korea? OK, so they have a few nukes-what are they going to do with them? Fire one off at South Korea-they're the only ones even talking to the North now and the half-life of that nuke will render the south pretty much unusable for the next 500 years or so. Any target that NK picks in their region will surely result in their total anniliation by China, Russia, India or the US. Who wants a cloud of nuclear dust swirling overhead from your neighbors whacked out tirade?

The only real fear is if NK decides to sell one of them to an interested 3rd party like al Queda-now that would be nasty and I would predict a swift anniliation by China, Russia, India or the US would follow.

Couple of things, I could be wrong at but from what I know NK wouldn't target Russia or China, they like them. They would target Japan or some other US ally. Also, they're known as an arms dealer to the highest bidder.

Also, I think the half life is for "dirty" nukes. The new and improved nukes which use a pure or puerer plutonium don't have the radiation issues. Just the mass destruction.

Personaly I agree with the thought that we should pull our military out of all other countries and the U.N. then see who comes crying. I'm tired of our troops/funds being used to bail out /police the world and then get pissed on for doing it.

I do have one point to make about North Korea...

North Korea is a sovereign nation. They have made two agreements not to develop nuclear weapons. One was the Nuclear Non-proliferation treaty. The other was an agreement with the U.S. not to make weapons grade material out of a specific nuclear plant.

They are withdrawing from the Non-proliferation treaty.

The US withdrew from the other treaty after North Korea announced it had made weapons grade material at another plant. After we withdrew from the treaty, North Korea began opening the plant we wanted shut down.

It's not really the same as Iraq because North Korea, as dangerous as it may be, has every right to make nuclear weapons.

The United Nations has agreed that Iraq does not have this right.

(Not that I support war with Iraq, but the situations are vastly different.)

How does NK have every right? They signed a treaty saying they wouldn't. Hence, they do not have the right.

And unless a mighty convincing link is provided, I dont think that that even the newest nukes are "clean" If you have fission, you have radiation, its as simple as that.

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How do they not have the right to do what we do?

I think that the do have the right...and if we should be worried about anything, I think it should be NK over Iraq. 

Either way, we have no need to invade ANY country BEFORE they attack us!

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