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#1 2005-04-29 7:36 pm
the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
does anyone know why i dont get the bubble animation when i drop a widget on my desktop?
is it a pref, my computer old, or did they decide against this animation?
in the Keynote, Jobs grabbed a widget and dropped it on the desktop in Dashboard.
their was a ripple effect on the dropped background.
is mine off because i need core video?
or is it a pref?
thanks
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#2 2005-04-29 8:00 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
You need Core Video.
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#3 2005-04-29 8:13 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
Core Image-capable graphics cards include:
ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
ATI Radeon 9600 XT, 9800 XT, X800 XT
nVidia GeForce FX Go 5200
nVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL, 6800 GT DDL
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#4 2005-04-29 9:22 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
So basically if you have an older mac, or an iBook or eMac you aren't going to get the flashy (yet unsubstantial) eye-candy..
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#5 2005-04-30 1:02 pm
Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
mersea wrote:
So basically if you have an older mac, or an iBook or eMac you aren't going to get the flashy (yet unsubstantial) eye-candy..
Yup.
It's nice on my G5.
Out of curiousity... will that work on the Minis?
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#6 2005-04-30 1:53 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
Hmm. Buying a 9800 seems a bit much for eye candy.
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#7 2005-04-30 7:25 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
You need a 64 megabyte videocard that's any of these videocards:
[*]ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
[*]ATI Radeon 9600 XT, 9800 XT, X800 XT
[*]nVidia GeForce FX Go 5200
[*]nVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
[*]nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL, 6800 GT DDL
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#8 2005-04-30 7:41 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
I don't get it either. Every computer I used in the Apple Store didn't have it either. Even the Dual 2.7GHz G5. Like my G4 and iBook, they all just kinda plopped the widget out on the desktop rather than doing what Steve Jobs did in his Keynote.
It doesn't bother me either way. Just as long I have the widgets.
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#9 2005-04-30 7:42 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
Or, to put it another way, you either need to lay down the bucks for a 9800, or you need another mac...
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#10 2005-04-30 8:10 pm
Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
MacAddict2000 wrote:
I don't get it either. Every computer I used in the Apple Store didn't have it either. Even the Dual 2.7GHz G5. Like my G4 and iBook, they all just kinda plopped the widget out on the desktop rather than doing what Steve Jobs did in his Keynote.
It doesn't bother me either way. Just as long I have the widgets.
What?
Mine does. It doesn't seem to be able to translate immediately, but it does the image thingy.
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#11 2005-04-30 8:16 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
I added thee widgets.. all gave the kewl ripple when dropped in.
did the same on the imac as well.
but then again.. i layed out the bucks.
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#12 2005-04-30 8:17 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
My powerbook with a GeForce FX Go5200 32MB displays it
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#13 2005-04-30 8:59 pm
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my 12" pb with the 5200 and 64mb does it very well, and every powermac/powerbook at the lynnhood apple store did it last night too
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#14 2005-04-30 9:34 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
Anyone know if this works on a 14" iBook G4? If not, is there something I can buy to make it work? It would be very disappointing if it couldn't.
Thanks.
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#15 2005-04-30 11:20 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
Gogf wrote:
Anyone know if this works on a 14" iBook G4? If not, is there something I can buy to make it work? It would be very disappointing if it couldn't.
Thanks.
Whether or not Core Video works on your 14" iBook depends on the model (ie. revision). It will either work or it won't; there is nothing you can buy to make it work since the iBook's GPU is soldered onto the motherboard.
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#16 2005-05-01 10:47 am
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
Macskeeball wrote:
Gogf wrote:
Anyone know if this works on a 14" iBook G4? If not, is there something I can buy to make it work? It would be very disappointing if it couldn't.
Thanks.Whether or not Core Video works on your 14" iBook depends on the model (ie. revision). It will either work or it won't; there is nothing you can buy to make it work since the iBook's GPU is soldered onto the motherboard.
How about the current 14" available in the Apple store?
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#17 2005-05-01 2:45 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
Much as I hate to resort to Microsoftish terminology, the cards that are most compatible with CoreImage/CoreVideo are those that support DirectX 9.0/Pixel Shader 2.0. The defining characteristic of Pixel Shader 2.0 hardware is the ability to run floating point programs directly on the video card. Earlier versions of the PixelShader spec (distributed with DirectX 8.1, for example) only required integer-level programability.
The Radeon 8500, 9000, 9100 and 9200 and GeForce3 and Geforce4 cards only support this more primitive dialect.
The more advanced feature set is supported on Radeons 9500--X800, as well as the GeForces 5 and 6.
Apple, of course, eschews DirectX in favour of OpenGL. There, the relevant hardware extension is called ARB_fragment_program, which requires, among other things, floating point support.
You ask why floating point is so damnably important for pushing pixels about, but such a question might indicate a lack of familiarity with MacOSX graphics programming-- colors and coordinates are most often expressed in floating point units, perhaps because it simplifies the affine transformations and color correction that Quartz is known for.
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#18 2005-05-01 3:08 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
jerwin wrote:
Much as I hate to resort to Microsoftish terminology, the cards that are most compatible with CoreImage/CoreVideo are those that support DirectX 9.0/Pixel Shader 2.0. The defining characteristic of Pixel Shader 2.0 hardware is the ability to run floating point programs directly on the video card. Earlier versions of the PixelShader spec (distributed with DirectX 8.1, for example) only required integer-level programability.
The Radeon 8500, 9000, 9100 and 9200 and GeForce3 and Geforce4 cards only support this more primitive dialect.
The more advanced feature set is supported on Radeons 9500--X800, as well as the GeForces 5 and 6.
Apple, of course, eschews DirectX in favour of OpenGL. There, the relevant hardware extension is called ARB_fragment_program, which requires, among other things, floating point support.
You ask why floating point is so damnably important for pushing pixels about, but such a question might indicate a lack of familiarity with MacOSX graphics programming-- colors and coordinates are most often expressed in floating point units, perhaps because it simplifies the affine transformations and color correction that Quartz is known for.
... So will it works on the 14" iBook available for sale or not?
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#19 2005-05-01 3:26 pm
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Re: the animation when you add a Widget to the Dashboard
Gogf wrote:
[... So will it works on the 14" iBook available for sale or not?
No. But don't take that as an endorsement of the geForce 5200 (featured in the 12 inch powerbook), either. Although the 5200 has some hardware support for ARB_fragment_program, piping CoreImage filters through the Velocity Engine might be faster.
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