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Well if Ryan had not tried to completely refine it and just let us deal with a loss of a few fps in performance then we'd have it be now. Last I saw he had gotten it working better but there was a problem which caused a loss of fps. I'd rather have that than wait for someone to completely reprogram that aspect.

Think he posts on the MA forums sometimes. Hes the guy that was taking up where Glenda Adams left off. And I know hes got a site for feedback on things but he has said many times he gets a lot of msgs about UT and so I doubt he answers many of them anymore. Trouble is that he is doing it alone and since he has to also port all the other UT based games to Mac he just cant donate as much time to the original UT.

http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/finger/finge … er=icculus

That is Ryan Gordon's page and UTPG used to be on there. As you can read, he took off projects that weren't being updated regularly. Once again, as he said, just because UTPG is off there doesn't mean he's not working on it. We're just going to have to wait, and nothing we say or do will make things go faster. Don't worry, if a final version is released, I'm sure you'll know about it.

Well, I'll take it with wishful thinking, since UTPG said back in Nov '04

The most important piece for all you Mac users out there is a preview release of the brand new Mac OSX client.

Unfortunately, I can't give a timeline as there could be any number of events that could push us back (and don't want to upset you with a false date).

That in itself it kinda like dangleing it on a string just in front of us. :-(

JUST GIVE US THE PREVIEW RELEASE

Anyone know what is going on with UTPG? I just finished poking around the icculus bugzilla for UT and the last bug reported for the 468 patch was 2/28/05...almost a year ago. Did Ryan Gordon give up on it? Been a few months since he even posted about it in his finger.

Ryan on 2/20/05 wrote:

UTPG: There's just no way around it...the UnrealEngine1 renderer totally blows on modern hardware. This really needs a rewrite before we're done. 

The last UTPG post was in Nov. 04. So between Nov 04 and Feb 05 Ryan learned his UT99 OSX port sucked ass and we haven't heard a word since.

NightCougar_37 wrote:

Sucked ass to who?

Ryan's Mac Ninja Team who the beta was released to. For Ryan to state the above his beta must have really been a POS.

I can't imagine it being worse tha PR3. The beta had the abilty to leave fullscreen mode ffs, big gripe with PR3. It had a working ucc-bin so that is also a plus, capabilities of the linux UT. The bug tracker doesn't discuss much, mostly small issues...like screenshots not working in window mode.

Ryan has dropped it and AA is on the way.

Ryan wrote:

The problem, though, is that I'm a busy, busy guy. There are paying clients
that are waiting for me to give them my attention, and my TODO list is
continuing to grow. There are clients I work for, too many pro bono ports
that I think are important, personal projects and experiments, open source
stuff that needs love and care...I really do try to make everyone happy, and
spend almost every waking hour in a debugger to do so, but as all the people
still emailing me for UTPG updates can tell you, sometimes things just get
flat out dropped. There are only so many hours in the day, even when I use
each at maximum efficiency.

Sadly, the ArmyGame project is about to teeter into this category.

2.7 is coming soon, and I'm still fighting with the 2.6 clients.

http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/finger/finge … er=icculus

Logy from the UT forums wrote:

UT is approaching SEVEN YEARS OLD! SEVEN! You want to turn back the clock back SEVEN FREAKING YEARS in a futile attempt to capture the feelings of a relatively unrefined gameplay experience whose glaring faults you have conveniently filtered out through the mists of nostalgia.

You can't get that feeling back! It's gone forever! GONE! Time to move on! Onward and upward! Embrace change! Open your mind to new experiences! Or at least shut up about UT99, for the love of God!

Have to agree.

Last edited by LLEVIATHANN (2006-04-25 9:30 am)

That's a great idea. First step, buy an intel mac
Done.
Next step, get my grubby little hands on a copy of UT.
Or I'll just get UT2k4

mmaverick wrote:

I'll just get UT2k7

Fixed that for ya.
Epic says '07 will feel more like '99.

Phydeaux wrote:

It's okay.

We'll just load up WinXP on our new Intel Macs and play it the way it was meant to be played.

All for the best.

Give us all a disposable income and a better reason than one game to buy an Intel Mac and Windows.

That's just stupid.

And for "play it the way it was meant to be played" then you really need Linux. UT in Linux is much better than Windows.