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#1 2005-05-17 5:14 pm

Luca Rescigno
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People on these forums who give purchasing advice

I admit I don't visit these forums often. However, the few times I do I am constantly depressed by the way people here give awful purchasing advice, never listen to the good advice, and always jump into buying stuff without doing any prior research at all. Just earlier today, someone asked about what RAM to get for a Mac mini. After several people gave somewhat good suggestions, he ignored everything and bought something much more expensive. Why? Hell if I know! He didn't even post to ask whether it was a good deal or not until AFTER he bought it!

I'm lucky I'm smart enough to avoid all this crap, but I see these forums as an upside-down piggy bank, constantly leaking money into a bottomless pit of despair. Someone here spent over $100 on a crappy old computer that most people could find in a dumpster. I see people making the stupidest product recommendations all the time. Why can't anyone recognize that if you're not super knowledgeable about this stuff, you shouldn't be giving advice? And why can't anyone who's asking the people here follow the good advice?

Again, I don't really care THAT much, but it's still frustrating. I would recommend that you don't give purchasing advice for things you don't know much about, and you don't ask for advice if you're not going to follow it.

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#2 2005-05-17 5:25 pm

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Amen.


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#3 2005-05-17 5:32 pm

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

as they say

buyer beware.

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#4 2005-05-17 5:38 pm

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

For the love of God stop buying cheap -o- computer speakers.  big_smile

Yes people are weird this way. shrug

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#5 2005-05-17 6:10 pm

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Luca Rescigno wrote:

I admit I don't visit these forums often. However, the few times I do I am constantly depressed by the way people here give awful purchasing advice, never listen to the good advice, and always jump into buying stuff without doing any prior research at all. Just earlier today, someone asked about what RAM to get for a Mac mini. After several people gave somewhat good suggestions, he ignored everything and bought something much more expensive. Why? Hell if I know! He didn't even post to ask whether it was a good deal or not until AFTER he bought it!

I'm lucky I'm smart enough to avoid all this crap, but I see these forums as an upside-down piggy bank, constantly leaking money into a bottomless pit of despair. Someone here spent over $100 on a crappy old computer that most people could find in a dumpster. I see people making the stupidest product recommendations all the time. Why can't anyone recognize that if you're not super knowledgeable about this stuff, you shouldn't be giving advice? And why can't anyone who's asking the people here follow the good advice?

Again, I don't really care THAT much, but it's still frustrating. I would recommend that you don't give purchasing advice for things you don't know much about, and you don't ask for advice if you're not going to follow it.

links, plz.


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#6 2005-05-18 1:09 am

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Meh.  shrug


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#7 2005-05-18 1:56 am

Mainwar
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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

The internet is full of bad advice from people who think they know what they are talking about. I don't use the net if I need advice smile


When in doubt, ask yourself, WWJD - What Would Jehannum Do?

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#8 2005-05-18 3:11 am

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Mainwar wrote:

The internet is full of bad advice from people who think they know what they are talking about. I don't use the net if I need advice smile

Just like any other medium, the internet is also full of advice from people who do know what the hell they're talking about.

The trick is not to dismiss an entire realm of information-gathering, but to assess the value of every piece of information, regardless of the medium.

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#9 2005-05-18 9:43 am

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Alien wrote:

Mainwar wrote:

The internet is full of bad advice from people who think they know what they are talking about. I don't use the net if I need advice smile

Just like any other medium, the internet is also full of advice from people who do know what the hell they're talking about.

The trick is not to dismiss an entire realm of information-gathering, but to assess the value of every piece of information, regardless of the medium.

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And to know who to ask.

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#10 2005-05-18 11:45 am

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

In the case of most things, I tend to think that you get what you pay for.  Sometimes this means it's a little more expensive to get something dependable.

If you're talking about one's absolute bottom line being price, then yeah, you can probably buy the no-name, no-rep, no-warranty crap from Korea, but don't be surprised when you're out more money than the expensive item later because you've had to replace it.

That is exactly the reason why I buy OEM car parts (from the dealer).  I could get an alternator from a McParts store for half the price, but what good does half the price do when the part fails in 1/4 the time?


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#11 2005-05-18 11:54 am

MrJ in OZ
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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Luca Rescigno wrote:

he ignored everything and bought something much more expensive. Why? Hell if I know! He didn't even post to ask whether it was a good deal or not until AFTER he bought it!
.

Hey [dingle berry]! I did get a good deal with my student discount and I am appreciative to others who gave me advice.

Do you live in Australia? Do you know the dynamics involved in many shipping companies especially the ones from US shipping to some Bum smurf area. No, you don't do ya?

And I did not ask if it was a good deal after I bought it. I just asked if it was one of those kernel panic prone ones.

Get ur sh*t strait!

What r u saying I

Last edited by MrJ in OZ (2005-05-19 5:25 am)


*Fallacy at its zenith kids.* "Who is this "we" you keep talking about? What price have "you" paid for this war? Blah, Blah. Its hardly a "we" proposition."

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#12 2005-05-18 11:55 am

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Alien wrote:

Mainwar wrote:

The internet is full of bad advice from people who think they know what they are talking about. I don't use the net if I need advice smile

Just like any other medium, the internet is also full of advice from people who do know what the hell they're talking about.

The trick is not to dismiss an entire realm of information-gathering, but to assess the value of every piece of information, regardless of the medium.

,xtG
.tsooJ

The fact remains that there is still a lot of bad advice out there, and since most content and opinions on the net are unedited, I'd rather trust a magazine or a book or something. As Justine says, you need to know who to ask, but that's not always easy if you're after information on somehting you don't understand, and when you're looking in a place where you don't know the people.

And I dind't say "hell" smile


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#13 2005-05-18 12:09 pm

MrJ in OZ
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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

279 AUD
Australian Dollar
1 AUD = 0.7614 USD    
=
212.4166 USD
United States Dollar
1 USD = 1.3135 AUD

$212-$50 discount = $162 USD, for a 1GB PC3200 DDR400 SDRAM 184-pin DIMM

(included shipping)


$ US companies wouldnt ship it cause I have a different address for credit and they cant confirm it and our ebay has about 6 items on it. I am hesitant in ordering overseas e bay.

Last edited by MrJ in OZ (2005-05-18 1:12 pm)


*Fallacy at its zenith kids.* "Who is this "we" you keep talking about? What price have "you" paid for this war? Blah, Blah. Its hardly a "we" proposition."

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#14 2005-05-18 12:10 pm

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

If you're looking for a good bluetooth headset, get the Jabra Freespeak 250.  It's the best bluetooth headset on the market. It works great.

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#15 2005-05-18 12:28 pm

Luca Rescigno
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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Well, here's an example of "I just bought something, did I get a good deal?":

http://www.macaddict.com/forums/topic/60795

Poor guy paid almost a grand for a 667 MHz PowerBook G4.

There are more, and generally I'm not just referring to purchasing advice. It's just frustrating when people try to give advice and it's clear they don't know what they're talking about, and they're probably just making up half of what they're saying. I'll find some more links, because I know they're out there.

Oh, and MrJ, thanks for the explanation. I didn't know that companies that supposedly ship internationally are so picky about it. US$162 when you're in Australia is a pretty good deal.

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#16 2005-05-18 12:29 pm

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Considering the apple store told me it would cost $500 AUD ($381 USD) to put in more ram, I think I am still better off.


*Fallacy at its zenith kids.* "Who is this "we" you keep talking about? What price have "you" paid for this war? Blah, Blah. Its hardly a "we" proposition."

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#17 2005-05-18 12:51 pm

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

My thought is that if the person felt that the price was reasonable and they got what they wanted, then who are you to tell them that they got shafted?  I sometimes pay more for something than someone else might, but I do so because I feel that the price is reasonable and justified.  I shop locally, usually paying more than if I had ordered something online or gone to a bigger city to get it.  I feel that not only am I saving gas (both mine and the shipping company's), but I am supporting the local economy, which in turn helps me out.  Buy all the super cheapo crap you want, and I still believe that I am getting the better deal.  You are not factoring in things like warranty, ease of return or exchange, being treated like a person, not a number, etc.  I can walk back into the store with the item and they usually remember me and when I bought the item.  Some stores know me so well that they no longer ask for a receipt when I return stuff unless it has been some time since I bought an item.  The lowest price isn't always the best price.


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#18 2005-05-18 12:57 pm

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

I'm just amused that MrJ made 3 posts that all said basically the same thing, all without anyone ever specifically mentioning him, or responding to his earlier posts.

But that's a rant in and of itself.


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#19 2005-05-18 8:55 pm

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Something shakespeare wrote about methinks and protesting.


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#20 2005-05-18 9:53 pm

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

there's always a good deal.. rule one.. never look back on a computer purchase.

some people actually bought this..
http://homepage.mac.com/macnuke/pc.jpg

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#21 2005-05-19 2:37 am

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Orion wrote:

My thought is that if the person felt that the price was reasonable and they got what they wanted, then who are you to tell them that they got shafted?

Amen.
Sure - you can often find a better deal. That often takes both time and research - time is money.

I recently ordered an exchange battery for my laptop - I expected it over a week ago, still hasn't arrived - I went with one if the cheaper places. I wish I hadn't.


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#22 2005-05-19 4:52 am

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Mainwar wrote:

Alien wrote:

Just like any other medium, the internet is also full of advice from people who do know what the hell they're talking about.

The trick is not to dismiss an entire realm of information-gathering, but to assess the value of every piece of information, regardless of the medium.

The fact remains that there is still a lot of bad advice out there, and since most content and opinions on the net are unedited, I'd rather trust a magazine or a book or something.

Suit yourself; your loss. tongue

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#23 2005-05-19 5:43 am

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

Alien wrote:

Mainwar wrote:

Alien wrote:

Just like any other medium, the internet is also full of advice from people who do know what the hell they're talking about.

The trick is not to dismiss an entire realm of information-gathering, but to assess the value of every piece of information, regardless of the medium.

The fact remains that there is still a lot of bad advice out there, and since most content and opinions on the net are unedited, I'd rather trust a magazine or a book or something.

Suit yourself; your loss. tongue

,xtG
.tsooJ

Personally, i'd trust the people on here more than someone gettting paid to tell me about a product. Of course, it also depends on the product, and the people.

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#24 2005-05-19 8:43 am

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

i agree id rather go with information around here than some stupid magazine. that may test the product for a week then write a review.


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#25 2005-05-19 8:54 am

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Re: People on these forums who give purchasing advice

macfiend wrote:

i agree id rather go with information around here than some stupid magazine. that may test the product for a week then write a review.

The Colt Vista got rave reviews from Consumer Reports in the late 80's.
Lots of people including my parents bought one based upon those reviews.

Turned out to be a trash car.


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