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#1 2005-05-18 4:49 pm

digitaldude
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Hand me down power G3

Hi all...
Just  joined the real world, well I thought I had.. My brother has just passed on a power G3 to me, surplus to his design office.. only problem is it won't boot up, seems there is a problem, I've tried various power leads etc, but no go, has any kind mac person got any ideas where I can start looking to solve the problem??
much obliged ??

wannabe mac man- digitaldude

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#2 2005-05-19 3:41 pm

majeskyb
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Re: Hand me down power G3

What does it do when you try to power it on?  Any lights, noises, or movement?  And which g3 is it?
Does it look like this one?
This one?
Or one of these? (there's also a desktop model that looks like this tower)


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#3 2005-05-19 11:44 pm

PowerMacMan
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Re: Hand me down power G3

Whats a power g3?


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#4 2005-05-20 12:50 am

ironhawk
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Re: Hand me down power G3

You know he means PowerMac G3 roll ...

Go easy on the man, he's new.

That said, once you answer majesky's questions, we can be of better help.


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#5 2005-05-20 11:08 am

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Re: Hand me down power G3

No, I don't. People frequently refer to PowerBook G3s and iMac G3s as Power G3s thinking of 'PowerPC G3'.


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#6 2005-05-20 3:02 pm

digitaldude
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Re: Hand me down power G3

Hi, yes sorry wasn't too clear on my description, it's a yosemite, blue and white power mac G3.

Since my 1st post I've put in a new 3.6v batt and it now turns on, but all I get on the screen is a small icon with a face/? which I guess means it doesn't see any booting up software.

I have no discs with this machine so I'm not sure what to do next??

ant creative response would be most appreciated.
KR to all DD

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#7 2005-05-21 10:47 am

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Re: Hand me down power G3

Most likely Your brother's company wiped the drive on that unit before they let him have it to give to you. That's normally what the question mark error message means that there isn't an OS installed, either that or the drive is bad or something similar.

try looking on ebay for the system restore disks that went with it originally, or for other Mac OS install disks. I won't swear to it but I think you would need to get 9.0 or newer for that model. some of the guys on the forum who are more knowledgeable than me can answer that question.

I bought my retail boxed copy of Mac OS X 10.3 for 35 dollars right after Tiger came out. It even came with the dogtags they were giving out when Panther first came out.

Older versions of OS X sell for less on ebay if you don't mind using them.


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#8 2005-05-21 11:21 am

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Re: Hand me down power G3

Close Linuxgeek, but no banana... the Rev. 1 B+W originally came with 8.5.1.
The Rev. 2 on the other hand requires 8.6 . Both revisions support any version of OSX up to Tiger. up smile


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#9 2005-05-22 2:54 am

digitaldude
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Re: Hand me down power G3

Thanks for the info guys, I will try to get some OS  from somewhere...

Cheers..

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#10 2005-05-23 6:56 am

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Re: Hand me down power G3


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#11 2005-05-23 1:49 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

Oh, be sure to check up on whether you need a Firmware update for your mac. Some G3 needed one.
You can find info about that on Apple's support/download pages

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#12 2005-05-23 7:36 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

SchmoBurger wrote:

Close Linuxgeek, but no banana... the Rev. 1 B+W originally came with 8.5.1.
The Rev. 2 on the other hand requires 8.6 . Both revisions support any version of OSX up to Tiger. up smile

Thanks for the correction. I wasn't sure what B&W units came with originally.

My B&W was bought off ebay, so I didn't get the original disks for it. smile

It runs Panther quite nicely though. big_smile


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#13 2005-05-24 12:16 am

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Re: Hand me down power G3

uggg... G3's.


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#14 2005-05-24 8:25 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

What the crap kind of a post is that? Buzz off.


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#15 2005-05-25 1:28 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

PowerMacMan wrote:

What the crap kind of a post is that? Buzz off.

Another myopic ignoramus.


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#16 2005-05-25 2:09 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

smurf wrote:

PowerMacMan wrote:

What the crap kind of a post is that? Buzz off.

Another myopic ignoramus.

Who's an ignoramus?
The guy who was already served by the entire crowd in another forum thread?
Well, you certainly are hard-pressed to learn what's best for you.
We don't always see eye to eye, but PowerMacMan's no slouch.
It would likely be much better for you to either take his advice or change your attitude.


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#17 2005-05-25 2:28 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

Tell me! Is it more shortsighted to look at older computers as valid equipment even if they are inferior, or to dismiss them as totally useless because they might not be as fast as you might prefer.

Many of us see value where you obviously do not. There's the fact that, especially since the Mini came out you can now pick up a G3 (which has many of the same capabilities as a G4 or even the G5, but lacks the speed) super cheap. There's also the fact that old or less powerful Macs have a collectible value to them (unlike most old PCs). It's obvious to those of us who pick up old systems that there are some task that are just not possible on our machines or would take longer on our machines than is acceptable. But then we probably didn't pick up those machines to do those things but because it's either what we could afford, the price is right to try things out, or just a model that we just liked.

The dude just scored a FREE MAC and wants to make the most out of it while he's trying things out. Either contribute to the guy's experience or be quiet.

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#18 2005-05-25 2:33 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

If your presumptive disposition claims I picked on a G3, you need to cease your ignorance.


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#19 2005-05-25 3:20 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

smurf wrote:

If your presumptive disposition claims I picked on a G3, you need to cease your ignorance.

smurf wrote:

uggg... G3's.

If that or the similar post PMM referenced are not picking on a G3 then you didn't post them under the name smurf.

If you mean that you were picking on others for disagreeing with you, I have to agree, which segues in the point that the first rule I have listed in Circuit Board, Desktops, and Command Line, indeed the primary rule in MAF in general, is "Don't be a jerk."

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#20 2005-05-25 8:19 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

smurf wrote:

If your presumptive disposition claims I picked on a G3, you need to cease your ignorance.

Hi,
    I would PERFER a high end Mac. My husband is in the military and things are tight. Why don't you open up YOUR wallett and buy us a high end machine?You seem overly concerned about people using "these low end machines". I think it is GREAT that someone was generous to just give this person a computer.
 
   I DO understand where you are coming from to a point but the G3 will be plenty for the tasks many of us are doing. My 6 and 4 YO will be using mine with some Learning company software. We are not gamers. We do not need graphic intensive software.

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#21 2005-05-26 7:41 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

ScifiterX wrote:

smurf wrote:

If your presumptive disposition claims I picked on a G3, you need to cease your ignorance.

smurf wrote:

uggg... G3's.

If that or the similar post PMM referenced are not picking on a G3 then you didn't post them under the name smurf.

If you mean that you were picking on others for disagreeing with you, I have to agree, which segues in the point that the first rule I have listed in Circuit Board, Desktops, and Command Line, indeed the primary rule in MAF in general, is "Don't be a jerk."

Ugggg....G3's was posted because it brought back memories of a Web Editor job with Morris Communications.

I picked on no one; don


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#22 2005-05-26 9:17 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

OK smurf I'm going to get up on my soapbox. You most likely won't like what I have to say but here goes.

Regardless of how you might meant for your original post(s) to be interpreted by other people on this forum smurf, it came across as being negative about older hardware when there was no need for that type of comment to be made.

This is why you've been getting negative response to your posts.

I would love to have a New Mac Mini system, but since I am unemployed and the job market here in my area sucks right now I won't be able to afford to buy one anytime soon. According to you I'm misfortunate because I only have a measily G3 B&W system. Yet my G3 can do virtually everything I need or want to do with a Mac system, except that it just does it slower. So what, it still does it for me with decent speed. Yes it isn't as fast as my AMD Athlon XP 2400 system that runs windows XP but I don't care. I still enjoy using my G3 system regardless of it's speed.

Next time think before you open your mouth and stick your foot in it. That's what people are trying to tell you. You are entitled to your own opinion, but this doesn't mean you have to voice it on this forum in the fashion that you did.

I dare you to go make comments like this in the vintage forum. they would roast you alive and you most likely would get banned.

You're welcome to post on the MAF forum if you have something positive to say or if you have questions but we don't need your attitude by any means.

We're all here because of our love for Macintosh computers and all that is Apple, not to bring each other down with negativity.

OK I'll step down from my soapbox now.

I hope I haven't offended anyone by making my opinion on this subject known.

LGIT


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#23 2005-05-26 11:44 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

Ahem, I never knocked the speed of the G3 like so many have claimed, or assumed, in their incoherent rebuttals.

Is 'Uggg...G3's' a positive or a negative? In another thread I mentioned doing graphic work on a G3. It was slow for rasterizing, PDFs to JPEGs. I also mentioned how it was nice to have a smoke and coffee while waiting. Think about that last sentence. Rest during work is appreciated; thank you G3 400MHz iMac!

An old B&W G3 would make an adequet Web server. I would like to have another computer handle the server, and my G5 for other tasks.

Have a nice day! smile


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#24 2005-05-26 11:52 pm

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Re: Hand me down power G3

linuxgeekintraining wrote:

OK smurf I'm going to get up on my soapbox. You most likely won't like what I have to say but here goes.

Regardless of how you might meant for your original post(s) to be interpreted by other people on this forum smurf, it came across as being negative about older hardware when there was no need for that type of comment to be made.

This is why you've been getting negative response to your posts.

I would love to have a New Mac Mini system, but since I am unemployed and the job market here in my area sucks right now I won't be able to afford to buy one anytime soon. According to you I'm misfortunate because I only have a measily G3 B&W system. Yet my G3 can do virtually everything I need or want to do with a Mac system, except that it just does it slower. So what, it still does it for me with decent speed. Yes it isn't as fast as my AMD Athlon XP 2400 system that runs windows XP but I don't care. I still enjoy using my G3 system regardless of it's speed.

Next time think before you open your mouth and stick your foot in it. That's what people are trying to tell you. You are entitled to your own opinion, but this doesn't mean you have to voice it on this forum in the fashion that you did.

I dare you to go make comments like this in the vintage forum. they would roast you alive and you most likely would get banned.

You're welcome to post on the MAF forum if you have something positive to say or if you have questions but we don't need your attitude by any means.

We're all here because of our love for Macintosh computers and all that is Apple, not to bring each other down with negativity.

OK I'll step down from my soapbox now.

I hope I haven't offended anyone by making my opinion on this subject known.

LGIT

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#25 2005-05-27 12:51 am

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Re: Hand me down power G3

smurf wrote:

Logic and cognitive writing skills are not your stalwart attributes.

I certainly hope that was meant to be ironic.

Back on topic, did it turn out to be a firmware problem?


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