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#1 2005-05-28 2:53 pm
- helix7
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1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
Admittedly, I know very little about dual processor systems and how a dual setup compares to a single processor setup. Assuming you had a 1.42Ghz Mac Mini and a Dual 867Mhz Powermac G4, both with otherwise similar specs and equal RAM (say, 1GB). How would you expect these two systems to compare performance-wise?
And of course, I'm not just asking for my own amusement. 
I have the opportunity to buy a fairly inexpensive Dual 867Mhz G4 from a friend, or go with what was my original plan before the Powermac opportunity came up and get a Mac Mini. With either system it would be for home use, mostly Internet, email, and some light Photoshop and Illustrator use.
Thanks guys!
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#2 2005-05-28 3:47 pm
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Re: 1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
I would choose the dual 867 over the Mini. While the Mini has a higher clock speed this is the only area where it offers better performance (on paper). The tower will offer much better disk performance and this is the real bottleneck in most real world situations. Also, the tower is easily upgradable so you can install more/faster HDs, a better graphics card, faster CPUs, whatever you want. There is lots of life still left in a dual 867 but the Mini is pretty much what it is and there really isn't much you can do to make more out of it.
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#3 2005-05-29 6:56 am
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Re: 1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
I will also predict that mini would not be around (aka G4 cube) within 2yr! when all the hype is over, u will realize you just spend 499/599 on a barebone basic computer box with very low end component!
yup, just like those $199/299 wintel barebone box. POC in a cute box
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#4 2005-05-30 12:08 pm
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Re: 1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
I have a dual 867. The expansion capabilities are awesome. Room for 4 hard drives AND 2 optical drives, 4 PCI slots, 2 GB RAM, dual monitors using the stock NVidia GeForce 4MX but upgradable to much better if needed for games. Fans are somewhat noisy although no worse than most PCs. Mid tower case size with very easy access to all internal components.
The Mac Mini - 1 hard drive, 1 optical, no PCI, 1 GB RAM, 1 monitor with no upgrades possible. Very Quiet. Very small. Difficult to access internal components.
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#5 2005-05-31 9:03 am
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Re: 1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
All very good points guys, although I have to wonder is the mini is really going to become another cube. 
Upgrades aren't going to be a huge concern at this point, but I guess I should always consider that I'll want to upgrade in the future and the mini is hard to work on. The computer I'm satisfied with today will become the computer that I want to upgrade tomorrow.
I guess I'm leaning towards the dual 867 right now, but I still have some time to make a decision, so I'll keep doing my research and figuring out what's the best solution for me. Thanks for the help guys!
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#7 2005-06-01 12:31 am
Re: 1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
helix7 wrote:
All very good points guys, although I have to wonder is the mini is really going to become another cube.
Not likely. The Cube was a high-end, expensive Mac. The mini is a low-end, inexpensive Mac.
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#8 2005-06-01 12:02 pm
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Re: 1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
Just a think about how much "real life" that dual will have. Meaning, how long it will live before something goes bad on it. Its been used so, you have to consider the fact that it may not have been well kept, so a part(s) may fail. While the mini is brand new. It will be faster in most if not all basic tasks. While the dual would be better for MP only apps. And multi tasking would be better on the dual as well, all though I don't think by much. The only limiting factor on speed I would say is the Mini's hard disc. Video graphics as well but, that really depends on what you want to use the computer for.
If you are going to upgrade (heavily), then the dual box is the way to go. I would start at the CPU and work around to the video card and memory if needed. You definitely can get the tower to be much more powerful then any mini is right now. But, you would spend more then the cost of the mini to do it well. A good video card is about $200, CPU upgrade around $400, memory $150 or so (depending on how much you have and want to go to). For that price you could have bought a mini in addition to your G4 tower.
I say mini. But, that's just me. 
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#9 2005-06-01 2:44 pm
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Re: 1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
Depends on whether you want a Mac that you can incrementally upgrade over time and use for years or a Mac that is basically a disposable computer that wont be good for much in 2 years.
I was faced with a very similar decision a less than 2 months ago and I choose a used G4 tower over getting a Mini. YMMV.
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#10 2005-06-01 4:54 pm
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Re: 1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
Pariah wrote:
. YMMV.
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#11 2005-06-01 9:57 pm
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Re: 1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
Your Mileage May Vary.
And the dual G4 blows the mini away. The hard drive is faster, more ram, better video card, dual processors, upgradeable.
I have that model, and it's an awesome computer. I recently bought a new iMac, and it rocks, but that dual is probably the best mac I've ever owned.
You have an absolutely breath-taking... heiney. I mean, that thing's good. I wanna be friends with it.
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#12 2005-06-02 8:07 pm
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Re: 1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
Dual 867, hands down.
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#13 2005-06-07 10:47 am
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Re: 1.42Ghz Mac Mini vs. Dual 867Mhz G4
same here,
dual 867. This system should have plenty of life still in it. There are somethings to watch out for though. Are you a smoker? does your house have dirty power? If so, you might want to go with the mini. Other than that stick with the tower. My 500DP lasted 4 years until I sold it and it is still in service by a music studio.
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