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#1 2005-05-31 9:21 am

Jon
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VLC to die?

Ok so I just went to vlc's site redownload the thing and I just found out that a patent law is going to close them up,I mean look at the huge banner on the top of the page I hope it doesn't die because it's my main video player and such.

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#2 2005-05-31 9:21 am

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Re: VLC to die?

Mplayer for life!


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#3 2005-05-31 9:27 am

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Re: VLC to die?

you didn't read the site huh?

Also threatened are the many libraries and projects which VLC is built upon, like  FFmpeg, and the other fellow Free And Open Source software multimedia players, which include MPlayer, xine, Freevo, MythTV, gstreamer.


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#4 2005-05-31 9:28 am

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Re: VLC to die?

Does that play avi?


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#5 2005-05-31 10:14 am

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Re: VLC to die?

it does..


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#6 2005-05-31 10:21 am

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Re: VLC to die?

porn without VLC is just crap.


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#7 2005-05-31 12:55 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

*grabs latest version of both VLC and Mplayer*

I really do not want to have to install WMP.


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#8 2005-05-31 12:57 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

Thunderstruck wrote:

you didn't read the site huh?

Also threatened are the many libraries and projects which VLC is built upon, like  FFmpeg, and the other fellow Free And Open Source software multimedia players, which include MPlayer, xine, Freevo, MythTV, gstreamer.

Oh great.


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#9 2005-05-31 1:11 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

does it play .VOB?


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#10 2005-05-31 1:29 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

We still have QTime player,


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#11 2005-05-31 1:59 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

I'm not sure if you meant to tack on more to that sentence, but if you meant to, it should be something like this:

We still have QuickTime Player, but it actually isn't all that great because it doesn't support the avi container format, ogm and mkv are out of the picture as well. Does QT support xvid/divx? Does QT support AC3? FLAC? What about subtitles?

etc etc...

So yes, it's absolutely critical that this software patent law doesn't get passed, because then all platforms would be screwed.

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#12 2005-05-31 2:32 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

I really do not want to have to install WMP.

It doesn't play much, including many WMP files. The Mac port is weak. You're also forced to watch clips linearly, from start to finish.


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#13 2005-05-31 3:01 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

Booksley wrote:

I'm not sure if you meant to tack on more to that sentence, but if you meant to, it should be something like this:

We still have QuickTime Player, but it actually isn't all that great because it doesn't support the avi container format, ogm and mkv are out of the picture as well. Does QT support xvid/divx? Does QT support AC3? FLAC? What about subtitles?

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#14 2005-05-31 4:03 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

ScifiterX wrote:

Booksley wrote:

I'm not sure if you meant to tack on more to that sentence, but if you meant to, it should be something like this:

We still have QuickTime Player, but it actually isn't all that great because it doesn't support the avi container format, ogm and mkv are out of the picture as well. Does QT support xvid/divx? Does QT support AC3? FLAC? What about subtitles?

No components for OGM & MKV
DivX & DivX Pro
3ivX D4
Xvid
FLAC
AC3

Wound't this law affect hose plug ins too?


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#15 2005-05-31 4:06 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

I am sure it would, but who will be responsible for it is another story!


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#16 2005-05-31 4:09 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

Jon wrote:

ScifiterX wrote:

Booksley wrote:

I'm not sure if you meant to tack on more to that sentence, but if you meant to, it should be something like this:

We still have QuickTime Player, but it actually isn't all that great because it doesn't support the avi container format, ogm and mkv are out of the picture as well. Does QT support xvid/divx? Does QT support AC3? FLAC? What about subtitles?

No components for OGM & MKV
DivX & DivX Pro
3ivX D4
Xvid
FLAC
AC3

Wound't this law affect hose plug ins too?

These are the official ones, so n it wont affect them. But you wont be able to play wmd files in anything apart from what M$ makes.
only realplayer can play real files etc.

And also it will allow the basic patent smurf like in the US "I patented mouse pointers everyone, pay me $$$" etc.

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#17 2005-05-31 4:11 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

Oh just perfect roll


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#18 2005-05-31 5:25 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

This is the legislation I've been talking about. The tip is imminent.

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#19 2005-05-31 6:15 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

*hugs vlc*

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#20 2005-05-31 6:17 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

Thrica wrote:

This is the legislation I've been talking about. The tip is imminent.

Now I am no patent genius or Codec expert, and I don't mean to be contrarian, but I believe that the patents in question are for the technology behind the codec's, not for the content within the files, which are still protected under copyright.  If that is the case, I would support patents for Codecs, because the companies that invest million in developing better compression schemes should have a way to recoup that investment.  The content that is provided using those codecs as a vehicle would largely be unchanged with respect to the law, and copyright, fair use, etc, would all still apply.


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#21 2005-05-31 8:44 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

Software patent legislation would extend far beyond codecs - in fact, theoretically, they could be used to keep one product's features out of rivaling products, therefore stifling innovation and perpetuating monopolistic practices.

And those are just the short term effects.

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#22 2005-05-31 8:53 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

Short Circuit wrote:

These are the official ones, so n it wont affect them. But you wont be able to play wmd files in anything apart from what M$ makes.

So MS can make a player that will accept WMD files? The US goverment and military can't even find them! wink


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#23 2005-05-31 9:53 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

Patents sucks... really...


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#24 2005-06-01 7:40 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

http://www.hopkinton.k12.ma.us/hpta/images/clipart/art/stack%20of%20American%20money%200001.jpg > http://www.scie.org.uk/publications/tra/easyread/images/content/important6.jpg.

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#25 2005-06-01 9:38 pm

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Re: VLC to die?

BASTARDS!!!! VLC IS THE ONLY WAY I HAVE OF PLAYING DVDS ON MY G3 AND MY POWERBOOK... mad bang

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