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#1 2005-06-06 4:13 pm

TheConfuzed1
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I can breath now...

I got my new Powerbook just two days ago.  I was slightly alarmed that prices could go down and/or new products would be announced today.

Well, it seems that I made a good move in getting it when I did, as neither scenario happened today.

But now I'm holding my breath for entirely different reasons.

This is going to be a challenging year for Apple.


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#2 2005-06-06 4:20 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

Yeah, are x86 macs going to be released between now and 2006 or 2006 and 2007?


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#3 2005-06-06 4:42 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

Apple is pointing a gun at it's head


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#4 2005-06-06 5:24 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

I'm wondering if sales for the rest of the year will be really really slow.

Everyone waiting to buy until the new stuff comes out.....


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#5 2005-06-06 5:33 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

Or it will be really really good because everyone wants to get their hands on a real mac before the switch to x86.


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#6 2005-06-06 5:55 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

I doubt it. This shows that Apple doesn't really care too much about the survival of the Mac platform. sad

While in the past they'd never take a risk like this, even if they should have (like when they were stuck at 500MHz), but now with tons of iPod revenues they figure they can risk it all. They know that sales will be smurf until they come out with the new Macs.

Once half my software is forced to run in MacWINE or whatever, what's the point of having a Mac?

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#7 2005-06-06 5:59 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

TheConfuzed1 wrote:

I got my new Powerbook just two days ago.

I'd find a way to send it back. I wish I could send mine back now. Along with my airport extreme, express, and shuffle.

I hope Apple goes out of business at this point. Seriously! This new hardware better be something unbelievable, I think they'll need it to save themselves.

However, I say that as an Apple loyalist, not as generic consumer who wants an apple because it's a trendy computer.

I'll really flip if OSX is released for the generic PC.

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#8 2005-06-06 6:01 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

I don't regret my purchase one bit.


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#9 2005-06-06 6:29 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

smd3 wrote:

I hope Apple goes out of business at this point. Seriously!

whaa

Have you tried Linux lately?  XP? 

No, seriously.  Wherever you're used to running OS X, get yourself a box (even if it's just to borrow it) and experience downgrading to one of those systems.

I tried installing Linux on one of my home systems, I couldn't stand it - it was too close to Windows, had none of the elegance of Mac OS.  Lasted all of about an hour.

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#10 2005-06-06 6:46 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

I don't like to use such coarse language, but...

Shut the heck up, fanbitches.  "Apple is dead"... quit yer whining.  I'm glad that Intel is with Apple now... because now I won't have to hear you complaints about wanting a PowerBook G5.  Well guess what?  THERE WON'T BE ONE! 

I can't wait!  This is a very exciting time.  Apple knows what they're doing and it's a happy thing that no longer do they have to put up with IBM's dawdling.  I want to see the new designs they have in mind for the next generation!  Should be pretty rad.


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#11 2005-06-06 6:48 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

I ran linux almost exclusively before I bought my first PowerMac. Which was maybe 4 years ago now. The nice thing about Linux is it can be changed to your personal preference.

Don't like your window manager? Get another one. Don't like the bash prompt? Change it, or change your shell all together.

The reason I enjoy the Mac so much is I get the powerful, stable, and efficient back end without the hassle. Linux can be tedious at times, especially when setting up new hardware.

At this point I think I'd rather put the effort into it. I feel pretty betrayed. When I was in H.S. and we used Mac's exclusively I hated them. Their closed standards, high cost, and I thought OS 9 and below were garbage. And the switch from 68K to PPC? I thought it was absolutely absurd, a company forcing people to change architecture, making a lot of their current software titles obsolete in a wink.

I pretty much ate my words when I bought a Mac. I loved it, although I still think OS 9 and below are pretty much junk. I never thought the architecture would happen again, well I guess I was wrong.

Ok, so now what Apple.. great, make your stuff run on Intel. But then what about Intel's lack of 64-bit processors? They've been slow to roll out, and if I remember correctly they won't be backward compatible either. Will we see another shift under Intel's rule? I doubt it, with the slow phase in, but it's a possibility.

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#12 2005-06-06 6:49 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

smeghead wrote:

rad.

Yeah, totally tubular.  big_smile

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#13 2005-06-06 6:51 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

oatmeal wrote:

smeghead wrote:

rad.

Yeah, totally tubular.  big_smile

Right on, duderino!


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#14 2005-06-06 7:00 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

Here's apple's new design for you!
http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/inspn/6000_front_131x145.jpg

Found on Dell.com

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#15 2005-06-06 7:04 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

Err..  Didn't Apple switch the processor manufacturer, not the whole computer shebang?

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#16 2005-06-06 7:34 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

Mobos will still be designed by Apple. On a hardware level switching to Intel will probably be quite an improvement long term. Software, that's the question.

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#17 2005-06-06 8:32 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

Compared to Dell, all of Apple's components will be top notch (as always) and it's not like Jon Ives suddenly died, or ceased to exist.  It's still Apple, kids.  They didn't change their name to something silly like Gateway or Dell did they?


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#18 2005-06-06 8:46 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

smeghead wrote:

Compared to Dell, all of Apple's components will be top notch (as always) and it's not like Jon Ives suddenly died, or ceased to exist.  It's still Apple, kids.  They didn't change their name to something silly like Gateway or Dell did they?

Not as of yet...

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#19 2005-06-06 8:48 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

It's all in the OS. Even if it's OS X running on an abacus, or rocks in the sand, I'd still use it over Windows anyday.

This puts Macs on par with 95% or whatever with the rest of The Market Share, and it's going to give Microsoft bit of a scare methinks. And thats a GOOD thing!

I for one welcome our new Intel Overlords. IBM have been playing hacky sack long enough.

I just don't want to be stuck with a PowerPC Mac in 2-3yrs, and the 64bit thing is bit of a mystery at the moment, but I think it's in the works.

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#20 2005-06-06 8:50 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

I don't think it would truly give MS a scare unless they opened up OS X to be used for all PCs.

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#21 2005-06-06 8:53 pm

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Re: I can breath now...

Yeah, the minority that hacks OS X onto other x86 hardware probably don't buy Windows anyway.


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#22 2005-06-07 1:31 am

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Re: I can breath now...

You know what's funny?  Nearly every thread in CB relates to the Intel switch somehow, and I have yet to see a complaint regarding that.  wink


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#23 2005-06-07 2:31 am

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Re: I can breath now...

That's because I am seven to ten timezones ahead of you guys. And have therefore just woken up.

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#24 2005-06-07 3:24 am

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Re: I can breath now...

Jon wrote:

Apple is pointing a gun at it's head

Oh come on - don't be so dark!

Look at NeXT - they transitioned from m68k to x86 and ...

wait, bad example.

OK - look at BeOS - they transitioned from PPC to x86 and ...

wait, bad example.

Damn, who turned out the lights?


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#25 2005-06-07 3:30 am

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Re: I can breath now...

Hey Guys,

You gotta remember that Intel is an innocent chip chip manufacture, that PC company's choose to use. IBM actually makes computers! And you had no problem with that!
I was pretty shook up by apple's move but it'll work out and our current computers will not become obsolete for another 3 years.
Don't worry if you just purchased a new PB or whateva, it'll stay pretty cool for a while.


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