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#26 2005-06-16 9:27 am

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Re: So what happens to the G?

the g1 and g2 chips were powerpc (601 - 604e or something like that)

the g3 began with the 750 line.


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#27 2005-06-16 9:31 am

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Re: So what happens to the G?

Goat on Parade wrote:

err, weren't the 601, 602, 603, and 604 part of what could be called G1 while 603e and 604e part of G2?

No. The 603e, and 603ev were enhanced (and low-power) versions of the 603, the 604e was an enhanced version of the 604.

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#28 2005-06-16 9:32 am

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Re: So what happens to the G?

I have information from Deep deep throat that the next version of Mac cpu is going by the code name GX, GXM and GXD

yes boys and girls, you heard it from me first smile


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#29 2005-06-16 10:35 am

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Re: So what happens to the G?

As Intel discovered, you can't trademark a number.

That's why they started calling chips "Pentium" instead of continuing with "586".

I'm wondering if that is partly behind the "G" names.


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#30 2005-06-16 11:38 am

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Re: So what happens to the G?

stoned, remember that pontiac is selling it's car as "the first ever G6", knowing that G6 is only logical to follow G3, G4, and G5.

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#31 2005-06-16 12:33 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

Logical?
so where is G1 and G2?


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#32 2005-06-16 1:36 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

Try reading the thread before responding.

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#33 2005-06-16 1:58 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

Alien wrote:

As for Apple "ditching" Motorola for IBM, who do you think makes those G4 CPU's used in all of Apple's currently shipping computers except the PowerMac G5 and the Xserve?

You forgot the iMac. tongue


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#34 2005-06-16 5:56 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

TheConfuzed1 wrote:

Dishonest?  WTF?!?!  It's their name.  They can do with it as they please.  roll

They can do what they please, including being dishonest.

Continuing the G- naming convention suggests continuity, which is not the case.

Intel doesn't make PowerPC chips. It would be absurd for Apple to re-christen whatever Pentium they use as a "G6" as if it's just a new model of the processors they used before.

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#35 2005-06-17 3:24 am

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Re: So what happens to the G?

DJ LUCiTE wrote:

Maybe they'll go back to numbers. At least it's not a mess like the Quadra/Performa/LC/Power thing they had going on...

PowerMac 760, or something.

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With that choice all you need is a small typo, like an extra zero, and we're transported back in time to 1996 and the birth of my current Mac. Shouldn't play with timetravel it could have terrifying effects...  eek


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#36 2005-06-17 4:50 am

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Re: So what happens to the G?

Macskeeball wrote:

Alien wrote:

As for Apple "ditching" Motorola for IBM, who do you think makes those G4 CPU's used in all of Apple's currently shipping computers except the PowerMac G5 and the Xserve?

You forgot the iMac. tongue

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You mean like the iMac G5 I have ion my desk?

Damn. big_smile

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#37 2005-06-17 11:37 am

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Re: So what happens to the G?

Mymac4ever wrote:

With that choice all you need is a small typo, like an extra zero, and we're transported back in time to 1996 and the birth of my current Mac. Shouldn't play with timetravel it could have terrifying effects...  eek

*Looks at your sig*
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#38 2005-06-17 12:26 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

Everyone is sure the G is being dropped because the PPC Generation processors (G3 = Generation 3, G4 = Generation  4, G5 = Generation 5) are being dropped and understandably so. But then if you think about it, there's also also a good chance that it's the end of the Power Macintosh/Power Mac line's name all together. The Power in the Power Macintosh/Power Mac name is derived from the Power PC chip.

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#39 2005-06-17 12:27 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

pottymouth wrote:

But Pontiac grabbed G6...

G7 and G8, are taken too.
...and G9
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#40 2005-06-17 12:36 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

ScifiterX wrote:

The Power in the Power Macintosh/Power Mac name is derived from the Power PC chip.

But the Power in the PowerBooks was implemented before they switched to PowerPC...so I'd bet that Apple's going to keep Power in PowerMac anyway.


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#41 2005-06-17 4:54 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

What about something like the PowerMac I4? I5, I6? I'm sad to see the G* go tho, I liked that. Maybe Apple will remove processor names from their products, and instead will use speeds. In example, a PowerMac 3.8, or and iBook 2.7? As long as we don't have Intel Inside stickers, I'm cool with whatever name they choose... except Pentium. 'Couldn't live that down from PC friends... tongue


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#42 2005-06-17 5:30 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

i'm willing to bet they stay with the g* naming scheme. i'm only betting $5 though.


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#43 2005-06-17 5:40 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

Short Circuit wrote:

No you are somewhat right, it was:
IBM (630) = G3
Motorola (7400 to 74xx) = G4
IBM (970) = G5
so naturally, the:
Intel (xxxx) = G6

I still doubt Apple will put current P4s into PowerMacs, so it will probably be a "new" P4 series chip
And Intel/Apple might suprise us with anouncing a brandnew chip on the launch date... iHope

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I will not buy a chip with the Pentium name in it.

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#44 2005-06-17 10:05 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

Is Steve going to have a funeral for the G series processors like he did for OS 9?


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#45 2005-06-17 11:27 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

I'm foreseeing dark times in Apple's future. Can we change the name back to Performa? big_smile


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#46 2005-06-19 4:11 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

after-life wrote:

The G stands for generations of the PPC chip. Keeping it in the switch to x86 chips would be dishonest, though might make sense from a marketing perspective.

Sure, just like re-branding NeXTSTEP as "Mac OS X" was dishonest, but it was a good marketing move.

I don't think it would work, though.  You could argue that Mac OS X has Classic, it has Carbon, so it "kinda sorta" carries on some bit of legacy from Mac OS.  You can't say that about the Intel's processors, they aren't related to PowerPC in any way.  I think enough people are aware of this, so that trying to call any X86 processor a G6 would really ring a sour note.

Another catch is that Intel have their own far-reaching marketing plans for their processors.  It wouldn't make sense to sell the same processor as a "Pentium M" to the rest of the PC world, while calling it a G6-M (or whatever) when it's in a Macintosh.  That would only cause widespread confusion, and it would waste all the marketing dollars that Intel have put into building *their* brand recognition.


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#47 2005-06-19 4:13 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

The Intel chip Apple is suppose to use is a different generation of Intel chip. I have a feeling Intel will be calling it the Pentium 5, if not something else. Also, Apple has already trademarked Mactel, so it could be the "Mactel P5" (which is very un-Apple-like, IMO). It would be blasphemy to call it a Mactel G6, but Apple could do that.

The Powerbooks would have to get a new name too (since the "Power" was a tribute to PowerPC). Powerbook is such a cool name though...


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#48 2005-06-19 4:21 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

I feel that the Mactel thing is merely preventative.  If somebody else made a Mactel product, we start to have problems.

We can speculate all day, but we really won't know what Apple will call their chips until the day Steve hits the stage.  I imagine it'll be known by its "real" name... the Pentium [insert Intel selected name/number here].  I hope Apple renames them, however.

The PowerMac Intel Pentium 5 just doesn't work.


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#49 2005-06-20 3:51 am

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Re: So what happens to the G?

mo' ron wrote:

The Intel chip Apple is suppose to use is a different generation of Intel chip. I have a feeling Intel will be calling it the Pentium 5, if not something else. Also, Apple has already trademarked Mactel, so it could be the "Mactel P5" (which is very un-Apple-like, IMO). It would be blasphemy to call it a Mactel G6, but Apple could do that.

They'll probably go to 6, because, well, it's one more than 5, right? Having another "5-series" of PowerMacs seems like stagnation.

They might well decide to simply call it a PowerMac G6, anyway. As in "sixth-generation PowerMac". As has been noted many times the past few weeks, most people don't care what CPU is inside. They just want "the next machine after the PowerMac G5".

The Powerbooks would have to get a new name too (since the "Power" was a tribute to PowerPC). Powerbook is such a cool name though...

PowerBooks predate PowerPC CPU's by quite a few years.

Apple have quite a bit invested in the PowerBook and PowerMac brands. I doubt they'll give that up easily.

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#50 2005-06-21 5:03 pm

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Re: So what happens to the G?

But to get away from the history and speculation for a moment and return to the original question. The G will become a term of endearment when talking about computers from a better time. We'll say, yeah, that was a G-Thing (or thang depending on the region and dialect - which does not even take into account non-US Centric variations - of which I am sure there are many). For example, "Remember how much more work we could get done per clock cycle before Mactel?" "Yeah, that was a G-Thing."

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