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NAG wrote:

Still, I think Dell would run OS X into the ground.

Could you be a bigger fanboy?  You are insane.  You just want your cult protected.  OS X sold on the best selling computers in the world... and that's a bad thing? 

Do you want Apple to succeed, or are you do you want Apple's 1.8% global markshare to sink even lower?  Half of Apple's revenue compes from the iPod and Power Mac sales are at an all time low.  It's time to put aside your desire to be an exclusive faboy club member and start thinking about business sense.

How do you think Microsoft became so powerful... by allowing only one small proprietary hardware company to run their OS?  Lose the EGO and pray Apple makes a deal with Dell.

fingerjello wrote:

NAG wrote:

Still, I think Dell would run OS X into the ground.

Could you be a bigger fanboy?  You are insane.  You just want your cult protected.  OS X sold on the best selling computers in the world... and that's a bad thing? 

Do you want Apple to succeed, or are you do you want Apple's 1.8% global markshare to sink even lower?  Half of Apple's revenue compes from the iPod and Power Mac sales are at an all time low.  It's time to put aside your desire to be an exclusive faboy club member and start thinking about business sense.

How do you think Microsoft became so powerful... by allowing only one small proprietary hardware company to run their OS?  Lose the EGO and pray Apple makes a deal with Dell.

Wow. I kind of agree with this.

Other than NAG being a fanboy, he has a point. Apple would need a complete corporate restructuring, but they could do it, I guess.

Dell has never used an AMD chip, likely due to a special agreement with Intel, even though AMD chips were better than Intel's at various times. If Dell is offering to sell OS X, it makes me worried, because I would think there's a special agreement with Microsoft, too.

Thunderstruck wrote:

Michael "Sell the company and give the money back to the shareholders" Dell is afraid of Apple now.

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-203937.html

I doubt this will happen.

fingerjello wrote:

NAG wrote:

Still, I think Dell would run OS X into the ground.

Could you be a bigger fanboy?  You are insane.  You just want your cult protected.  OS X sold on the best selling computers in the world... and that's a bad thing? 

Do you want Apple to succeed, or are you do you want Apple's 1.8% global markshare to sink even lower?  Half of Apple's revenue compes from the iPod and Power Mac sales are at an all time low.  It's time to put aside your desire to be an exclusive faboy club member and start thinking about business sense.

How do you think Microsoft became so powerful... by allowing only one small proprietary hardware company to run their OS?  Lose the EGO and pray Apple makes a deal with Dell.

I think you are the *True* Apple fanboy.  NAG understands what Apple is all about, quality products, and that a deal such as Dell's could destroy that.  All you are concerned with is Apple's "financial" success.  How did Dell and Microsoft become so powerful you ask?  I'll tell you, by making smurfy products and putting their money into advertising.  Is that what you want from Apple?  A huge conglomerate that makes smurf products, but smurf products that EVERYONE uses.  I know that's not what I want.  I think Apple can figure out the right balance, but that balance may very well not include Dell.  I personally don't like the philosophy behind that company, and a smurfy product from Dell could generate a stigma about Apple products.

iopossum wrote:

I think you are the *True* Apple fanboy.  NAG understands what Apple is all about, quality products, and that a deal such as Dell's could destroy that.  All you are concerned with is Apple's "financial" success.  How did Dell and Microsoft become so powerful you ask?  I'll tell you, by making smurfy products and putting their money into advertising.  Is that what you want from Apple?  A huge conglomerate that makes smurf products, but smurf products that EVERYONE uses.  I know that's not what I want.  I think Apple can figure out the right balance, but that balance may very well not include Dell.  I personally don't like the philosophy behind that company, and a smurfy product from Dell could generate a stigma about Apple products.

Good point. I guess it all depends upon what direction Apple wants to go in. Sacrafice the quality of the hardware for market share? Or keep the quality products but limit the Mac's growth? This reminds me too much of the Mac clones that were circulating years back (I still have my Motorola Starmax). When Steve came back to Apple, he put the clones to a screeching halt. If we have learned anything from Steve's philosophy, it is that he would rather limit the growth of the Mac and retain the high-quality products that Apple is known for.

However, that may be changing...it will be interesting to see what happens.

Other than the fact that it would kill Apple's profit margin, why would Dell coming pre-loaded with a Mac be a bad thing?

Apple won't do it - it would be enabling a hardware competitor to compete with their hardware line, but really - what would be so bad about it?

Dell offers excellent small business support, better than Apple. It would be good for small business.

fingerjello wrote:

NAG wrote:

Still, I think Dell would run OS X into the ground.

Could you be a bigger fanboy?  You are insane.  You just want your cult protected.  OS X sold on the best selling computers in the world... and that's a bad thing? 

Do you want Apple to succeed, or are you do you want Apple's 1.8% global markshare to sink even lower?  Half of Apple's revenue compes from the iPod and Power Mac sales are at an all time low.  It's time to put aside your desire to be an exclusive faboy club member and start thinking about business sense.

How do you think Microsoft became so powerful... by allowing only one small proprietary hardware company to run their OS?  Lose the EGO and pray Apple makes a deal with Dell.

If Apple did the deal here, they lose the quality control and assurance that they have always had...selling software that is made to work with the hardware, and vice versa, is what Apple has always excelled at, and I truly hope that Jobs is aware of what he would be getting himself into if suddenly his OS could run on other people's hardware.

fingerjello: You are welcome to your opinions, but please lose the condescencion.

I can see it now:

"Here at Dell, we're the first computer company ever to ship with the Mac OS!"

sosumi wrote:

fingerjello: You are welcome to your opinions, but please lose the condescencion.

Aw, but it is funny when he attacks me for something the length of a sentence.

Anyway, Dell couldn't stand to sell iPods for long, I doubt they could stand to sell OS X for long either.

I think the short lived iPod thing had more to do with Dell wanting a piece of the music pie than anything.  Creative producing the Dell DJ for them probably meant more money since Apple is pretty strict about pricing.  Of course, it didn't really work out since estimates peg Dell DJ sales at 15,000 a quarter.

NAG wrote:

sosumi wrote:

probably meant more money since Apple is pretty strict about pricing

That is my point. I doubt that suddenly Apple and Dell would get together and have a good enough relationship to pull anything off. Once Dell saw yet another opportunity they would probably just dump Apple and run off with that.

Don't forget the HP ipod! what a joke that was!
Pay the exact same price as Apple iPod but without the cult/status smybol of Apple logo!

You mean the same way as Apple jump ship from Motorola/IBM to Intel?
This is business, profit margin and market share is the "ONLY" thing that count, if you think otherwise you are just a fanboy dreaming out loud!