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#1 2003-01-30 9:24 pm

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My fish died :(

We have some fish, and the tank was getting a bit of algae on it.  So we got a sucker fish to eat the algae. 

He died.

I just looked over at the tank, and he was quite dead.  He's only lived here about a week too.  sad

I just wanted to share.

So, for fear of sounding cold and insensitive, anyone know of any other ways to keep down algae blooms in indoor aquariums?  I don't want to subject another sucker fish to this apparently sucker-fish-unfriendly water.

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#2 2003-01-30 9:28 pm

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Re: My fish died :(

Snails.

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#3 2003-01-30 9:29 pm

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Re: My fish died :(

I used to have quite a few fish-- several years ago though.  Just regular cleaning is all I can think of right now.  Crown Royal stupor and all...  tongue


BTW, sorry about the fish.   sad


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#4 2003-01-30 9:30 pm

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Sorry to hear that, and i don't know anything about fish.  sad

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#5 2003-01-30 9:31 pm

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Snails.

I've heard that, now that you mention it.  I'll go get some snails, and I'll even name one of them "Malkin."  smile

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#6 2003-01-30 10:03 pm

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Re: My fish died :(

The amount of algae in a tank often is not enough to feed the sucker fish. We used to feed ours zucchini/cucumber. Cut them in half, microwave them for half a minute, let them cool, squeeze out the seeds and plop it into the tank. Snails tend to try and take over the whole tank as if they were some sort of freaky aquatic rabbits.

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#7 2003-01-30 10:28 pm

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Re: My fish died :(

my brother uses a few snails and a small shrimp or too and that seems to do it. he uses saltwater tanks though


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#8 2003-01-30 10:39 pm

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Re: My fish died :(

Eh, our sucker fish, a plecostemus, keeps the glass reasonably clean.  When that's not enough food for him, he'll eat the regular fish food too.  Methinks yours was sick when you got him.  You might buy another.

I really don't like fresh water snails.  They are an intermediate vector is several water borne parasitic diseases.  Some of which infect man.

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#9 2003-01-30 10:43 pm

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Re: My fish died :(

Many pl*cos are get very sick during shipping, and then others get sick when bought from in-proper stores.  Many common pl*cos get much too large for any tank under 50 gallons.  a few good fish sites are fishgeeks.com and planetcatfish.com

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#10 2003-01-30 10:43 pm

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Eh, our sucker fish, a plecostemus, keeps the glass reasonably clean.  When that's not enough food for him, he'll eat the regular fish food too.  Methinks yours was sick when you got him.  You might buy another.

Maybe.  But the other fish are outdoor (during the summer) goldfish and a shebunkin.  So, though I haven't tested the water's pH, I suspect it's slightle intolerant for the sucker fish.  I don't know what kind he was, but he was so ugly he was cute.  I called him Smeagol much to my wife's shagrin. smile

Anyway, I'll test the water's pH tomorrow, though I'll have to figure something out since my dogs ate the test tube  mad Anyway, I'll know more then.  If it's the pH, I'll fix it, monitor it, and get Smeagol II.  Otherwise, it's likely Malkin the snail. wink

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#11 2003-01-30 11:30 pm

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Re: My fish died :(

We have some fish, and the tank was getting a bit of algae on it.  So we got a sucker fish to eat the algae. 

He died.

I just looked over at the tank, and he was quite dead.  He's only lived here about a week too.  sad

I just wanted to share.

So, for fear of sounding cold and insensitive, anyone know of any other ways to keep down algae blooms in indoor aquariums?  I don't want to subject another sucker fish to this apparently sucker-fish-unfriendly water.

you could superchlorinate it.  wink

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#12 2003-01-30 11:32 pm

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Re: My fish died :(

Was the sucker fish making any signifcant inroads on the algae before it croaked? Do you know specifically what species of sucker it was? I ask because I've heard that there are several species, but only one that consumes algae as its primary food source. The rest will eat a bit, but can't live on algae alone.

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#13 2003-01-31 2:28 am

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Re: My fish died :(

...and I'll even name one of them "Malkin."  smile

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#14 2003-01-31 6:57 am

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I'm sorrying registered_user, you have my deepest condolences.


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#15 2003-01-31 7:58 am

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Was the sucker fish making any signifcant inroads on the algae before it croaked? Do you know specifically what species of sucker it was? I ask because I've heard that there are several species, but only one that consumes algae as its primary food source. The rest will eat a bit, but can't live on algae alone.

I don't know the species.  He was brown and bumpy, kinda looked like a rock.  And the pet store said he was good for eating algae, and for the week he was there, he really chowed down on it! 

I'll know more when I test the pH and metal content of the water, and I'll try to find out what kind of fish he was.

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#16 2003-01-31 8:00 am

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Re: My fish died :(

We have some fish, and the tank was getting a bit of algae on it.  So we got a sucker fish to eat the algae. 

He died.

I just looked over at the tank, and he was quite dead.  He's only lived here about a week too.  sad

I just wanted to share.

So, for fear of sounding cold and insensitive, anyone know of any other ways to keep down algae blooms in indoor aquariums?  I don't want to subject another sucker fish to this apparently sucker-fish-unfriendly water.

you could superchlorinate it.  wink

Get live plants to keep the phosphates down.

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#17 2003-01-31 10:04 am

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Re: My fish died :(

Many pl*cos are get very sick during shipping, and then others get sick when bought from in-proper stores.  Many common pl*cos get much too large for any tank under 50 gallons.  a few good fish sites are fishgeeks.com and planetcatfish.com

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#18 2003-01-31 10:24 am

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It looked kind of like this:

http://www.scotcat.com/images/brevis.jpg

It was pretty small though -- only about 2" long, so I'm not 100% sure if this is it or not.  Well, it's pretty close if it's different.

Oh, and xorpion, I wasn't trying to make fun of Malkin with that comment, it was meant to be light-hearted and fun.  I don't think Malkin is a snail.  If she were, that wacko cat of hers would have eaten her by now, I'm sure of it.  wink

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#19 2003-01-31 10:57 am

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Re: My fish died :(

It would be awesome to have a snail named after me!

Yeah, snails can take over your tanks if you let them, but personally I don't care.  I raise Fancy Guppies and because of my snails and live plants, I hardly ever have to clean my tank or change the water.  If a fish happens to die, the snails usually clean the whole thing up before I even have a chance.  It's nice.

I'm pretty convinced I have my own sub-species of snail at this point, because the thousands of snails I had over the years came from only two.  They went through a cycle where the majority of their shells turned white and got holes in them, but the strong have survived!  It's neat to watch the life cycle patterns follow the amount of food and space available in the tank.

You can buy bigger snails for a few bucks that sometimes have coloured shells or something neat like that, but the little ones you can usually get for free.  I use the little ones.  I am a snail fan.

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#20 2003-01-31 3:04 pm

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Shells turning white and growing 'holes' is an indication of one of those parasitic infections I mentioned earlier.  The flukes are leaving the snail and heading for their next host.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/Mollusks/schnecken.html
http://www.path.cam.ac.uk/~schisto/Othe … ciola.html

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#21 2003-01-31 3:36 pm

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Re: My fish died :(

Shells turning white and growing 'holes' is an indication of one of those parasitic infections I mentioned earlier.  The flukes are leaving the snail and heading for their next host.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/Mollusks/schnecken.html
http://www.path.cam.ac.uk/~schisto/Othe … ciola.html

Although I wouldn't doubt that snails carry many parasites, I don't think that's the case with mine.  As I said before, all of my snails came from two originals.  The shell problems didn't start until many generations (about four or five years worth) had come and gone.  During that time, there were no new introductions to the tanks, save for water replacement and the fish born in the tanks (yes, my fish are also very inbred, but not quite so bad tongue ).  I have a feeling that my snails could simply use some new genetic material, although most of the survivors are healthy.  I'll keep in mind not to drink the tank water though.  wink

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#22 2003-01-31 3:46 pm

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Re: My fish died :(

I just lost 2 pl*cos and 3 striped pictas to some Ick. I've put the ick solution in the water, and the 3 remaining Gourami seem o.k.  I'm gonna pick up another pl*cos this weekend and see how it goes.

My South American Gar choked to death on a shrimp pellet before the Ick could kill him.  sad


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#23 2003-01-31 3:57 pm

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Re: My fish died :(

I just lost 2 pl*cos and 3 striped pictas to some Ick. I've put the ick solution in the water, and the 3 remaining Gourami seem o.k.  I'm gonna pick up another pl*cos this weekend and see how it goes.

My South American Gar choked to death on a shrimp pellet before the Ick could kill him.  sad

Here's one tip I can help with!  Ick cannot survive over a certain temperature... I can't remember if it's 80

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