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Congrats again 'bu, and good luck.

Geographically, it's movin' on down

Gipetto wrote:

sellout.

Someone's jealous.

Welcome to the club.  Selling out is teh roxors!

The trick is selling out a place that lets you dress how you want, paid personal growth time, is run by a pagan and on occasion the corporate lawyer brings in beer/hard cider on fridays.

and if so, is working just on Fridays cool with them?

Scott wrote:

Welcome to the club.  Selling out is teh roxors!

Thanks! I hope you're right.

Scott wrote:

The trick is selling out a place that lets you dress how you want, paid personal growth time, is run by a pagan and on occasion the corporate lawyer brings in beer/hard cider on fridays.

The place I'm leaving let me dress how I wanted, didn't keep track of time off and let me take vacation if I asked nicely, and we all got tipsy at the beer-and-seafood Christmas party in the office. D'oh.

On the other hand, the place I'm going brings in half a billion a year in revenue, works with some of the largest companies in the world, and has a satellite office in the UK. Maybe in a year or two I can figure out how to get myself transferred.

If that's not the textbook definition of selling out, I don't know what is

No beer at our work. There something about an environment where you can cause yourself serious injury that disallows it

We do, however, get taken out for dinner once in a while and get to eat some tasty, tasty cheese, but that hardly has anything to do with web design and development so I'll shut up now.

Welcome to corporate slavery, 'bu!

Abu wrote:

On the other hand, the place I'm going brings in half a billion a year in revenue, works with some of the largest companies in the world, and has a satellite office in the UK. Maybe in a year or two I can figure out how to get myself transferred.

We are not quite at the half billion mark yet, just the multi-million. Our satellite office is in Poland.  But I get to wear sandals and set my own schedule (and telecomute).

I enjoy working for a good corporation.  In my youth I worked for a couple of fortune 500 companies and then decided (not sure why) that I was tired of that and wanted to work for a smaller business.   That blew.  After working for a couple of companies like that I was happy to go corporate again.  In my experiece larger companies have better organization and have put the effort into being well structured.  Sure, they are not perfect, but the small compaines I worked for just didn't have their smurf together and made descisions based on whim.  (I realize that there are probably small companies that have have thier smurf together.)

Also, didn't like the freelance thing. (at least as a main source of revenue.)  I spent more time selling and doing admin work than doing what I love.  I love having great sales staff and marketing team.   I still do side work when it suits me, but I don't have to rely on it, and fine turning it down.

Congrats Bu.  Opprounity is always good.  And large organizations allow for room for growth.  Still doing web dev right?

damn.

Scott wrote:

Abu wrote:

On the other hand, the place I'm going brings in half a billion a year in revenue, works with some of the largest companies in the world, and has a satellite office in the UK. Maybe in a year or two I can figure out how to get myself transferred.

We are not quite at the half billion mark yet...

...[lots of relevant stuff about Scott's work history that is too long to keep as a full quote]...

...Congrats Bu.  Opprounity is always good.  And large organizations allow for room for growth.  Still doing web dev right?

The organization and structure thing is one of the reasons I started looking around. I'm not going to rag on my current place of employment (4 days left!), though. It was just a completely different atmosphere than that in which I would work best. I'm a structured thinker who likes to have clear goals and objectives over the course of a work day. I'm going to be one member of an 8-person team. Four of them are programmers, one is the leader, and two are project managers. I met with one of the project managers when I went in for my last round of interviewing and testing. The team leader had explained to me that this project manager would be organizing and filtering all the work to "protect me from the crazy communications department." For the most part, I'm going to be able to come in, have the morning meeting, and then grab my iPod and go to town for 8 hours. I'm going to be phenomenally productive in that environment. That's something that a 6-person company like CMG cannot offer.

I also know that this company gets steered in a direction only after said direction has been determined to be best. My position is a brand new one and I'll be using brand new, custom-built software. My team leader said that they took over a year evaluating and trying out software packages before settling on this company and package to be customized for them. Again, that's not something a small Ma and Pa shop can afford to do.

Thanks, Scott. Not only will I still be doing web dev, I'll be doing only web dev. My time right now is split into about a dozen different job descriptions. This new position is going to be producing and designing web sites all day every day, as many as 350 a year. 75% of them will be little more than a registration page and some contact information, but the other 25% will be full-blown sites of varying size and complexity. This is going to be FUN.

To top off all those sensible and business-related reasons, the move is going to kick arse, too. The Twin Cities are loaded with things to do and art galleries to visit (I'm not giving up on this painting dream of mine). Tons of my buddies from college live in the metro area. I'll be much closer to the Dome for Twins games. My Dad's family is all from MN and I'll be within an hour and a half from Grandma and Grandpa's farm. And to top it all off, I can get out of St. Cloud and this wholly depressing living-alone arrangement.

Scott wrote:

Gipetto wrote:

And I think Scott's lying. NOTHING is THAT good.

I could write pages about what an amazing company I work for.

...[gloating]...

And I respect and actually like every coworker.  Another rarity.

Wow. Seriously, wow. Consider yourself very lucky, sir. It sounds like you've found yourself a once-in-a-million opportunity. I hope mine turns out to be just as good