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OMG JB IS THE MOST HELPFUL PERSON EVER111!!111!!

Metacell wrote:

I couldn't find it with the software that came with my mac mini.  I had to go to the older version of Panther I had bought previously to find it, so I wonder if they stopped packaging it.

Anyway, heres the Apple page:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ … acosx.html

HAH!1111!!, beat you by 3 minutes.

Jon wrote:

OMG JB IS THE MOST HELPFUL PERSON EVER111!!111!!

I didn't know it was available as a separate download; and I needed to head out the door.
They also sounded a bit n00b-ish, so I though a quick reply would suffice.
My bad.

didn't they start charging for Mac Gimp tho?

jb wrote:

Jon wrote:

OMG JB IS THE MOST HELPFUL PERSON EVER111!!111!!

I didn't know it was available as a separate download; and I needed to head out the door.
They also sounded a bit n00b-ish, so I though a quick reply would suffice.
My bad.

True, n00bs believe anything, just like in halo when I tell them that the overshield makes you invincible and they shoot at me in my Warthog and I run them over. Good Times.

I'd point out that the posted download link is for X11 ver. 1.0, which is fine for Panther.  If you are using Tiger, you need X11 ver. 1.1 (and it's updated SDK, at least for many X-apps), which are not available for download.  They are however, on the Tiger DVD and can be installed at any time just by running their package installers.

i need x11 to run wine and on osx 10.4.5 installed from an earlier version but kept updated. now my problem comes when i try to install the x11 download from mac site. it says "a newer version is already installed", yet when i try to run darwine it still says cannot locate x11.

Curses!!!
help please

printemps wrote:

i need x11 to run wine and on osx 10.4.5 installed from an earlier version but kept updated. now my problem comes when i try to install the x11 download from mac site. it says "a newer version is already installed", yet when i try to run darwine it still says cannot locate x11.

Curses!!!
help please

The X11.app may be installed, but Wine may need the header files and things that are installed with the SDK (Software Development Kit).  Go to your Tiger DVD and when it mounts/opens in Finder, slide down to "Optional Installs.mpkg" and double click it.  Once you get to the "Custom Install on "Macintosh HD"" screen, select "Applications" and in that "X11".  That will make sure that you have the appropriate X11.app installed.

Then go back to the install DVD, go into Xcode Tools and double click "XcodeTools.mpkg" and do a COMPLETE install of Xcode Tools, including all of the SDK's (including X11).

You'll probably not need to use any of the tools yourself, but many of the pre-compiled apps will need some of the files included in the SDK's in order to run properly.

I put X11.app in my "Login Items" for my account so that it is up and running and ready for any X11 app that needs it (OpenOffice, GIMP, etc. etc.) whenever I'm logged in.  It has a very small footprint on the system until it's needed and even then it isn't huge.

If you want to get into open source software check out Fink.  Their FinkCommander makes life very easy.

Ah HA!  (Read about this in another thread or forum!)

The software check.

Have a look in /Library/Receipts for ".pkg" files to do with X11 and move same to temporary storage and retry your install.

Ah....

Here's a question from out of the blue.

Your system is telling you that your already have X11 installed (in Tiger it's in the /Applications/Utilities folder).  Do you have X11 running when you try to start darwine?
That may be what darwine is saying, not that it can find X11, but that it can't find a running copy of X11.
'Cause X11 shouldn't be this hard!

I've done nothing but upgrade-in-place (no archive and install, no install from scratch) from Jaguar -> Panther -> Tiger and have never had this kind of hiccup.

Hhmmmm.....

I'm no expert, but having come across an error message, or 6, in the last 20 years, I'd say, off-hand, that that is all tied up in the original error that Wine couldn't find the FreeType font library it wanted.  It's a domino effect kind of thing.  One thing flops then another can't get what it wants and falls over, and some other thread can't get what it wants, etc. etc. until the whole thing just dies.  "For the want of a nail...."

Now, if a person were a super-duper, programmer/sys-admin kind of person, they'd take one look at that entire error log and say; "Oh!  Hang on a sec." and bounce a couple of files around and pat the computer on the monitor and tell it it's "a good little computer" and all would be well.


Me?  I'm confused and prone to wandering!

Darwine is pre-Alpha software.  unfortunately, it doesn't include the freetype library with the distribution yet. The only true use you would have is if you had an Intel mac and/or you are a developer.  Just telling you.

And I say Launch X11 before launching darwine.

Last edited by Madd the Sane (2006-03-17 10:58 pm)