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i love how the magnafying glass direction is just reverse what it is in XP...otherwise its like the same image.

MuckSavage wrote:

Bah!

Didn't you all see the small magnifying glass icon on the bottom of the start menu? I'll bet that's some sort of state of the art file searching ability that will instantly find any file on your hard drive based on meta data! The future is now! (or late 2006.)

WAIT. Look at the picture again! No longer is it called "Turn Off Computer." We're back to "Shut Down" again, this is big!

sosumi wrote:

I was talking to a friend yesterday (who is an avid Windows user but is currently in love with an old 500Mhz iMac I gave him) and we were trying to figure just what new things are going to be in Longhorn now that WinFS and some other major technology have been stripped out.  We concluded pretty much the same thing but a new theme or two.  Looks like we might be right.

Yeah, it is really sad because WinFS actually looked to be kind of nice. It really looks to be turning out to be another service pack.

Well for how many years it has been in development I was hoping for something more than the MS version of Copland. I can understand Apple screwing up but I was hoping MS would have more direction. Apparently not.

Check out the system requirements. Don't remeber exactly, but it was something like 3ghz, 2 gig ram, "next generation video card" 4 gigs of HD space. What business is going to put 2 gigs of ram in a work computer let alone a video card of any sort.

EDIT -  Wait found it.

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2 … 842,00.asp

Microsoft is expected to recommend that the "average" Longhorn PC feature a dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit, built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times faster than those on the market today.

Last edited by Avari (2005-07-12 1:33 am)

It seems every revision since Windows 95 has had slight graphic changes, but only on the superficial level. Microsoft needs to work on their GUI in a more deep level, XP looks like a skin on Windows 9X and Longhorn continues the tradition.

All of the GUI elements retain their tacky microsoft-zeal, ie the buttons, popupmenus and so on. This looks like an OS9 user using a Mac OS X theme. It kinda looks like OSX but OS9 is still very apparent.

I'm sure it has some deeper changes but nothing that warrants the five years of development

MajorMatt wrote:

I'm sure it has some deeper changes but nothing that warrants the five years of development

I think what slowed them down was the .net framework. I'm sure many of their best developers were working .net while the next version of windows sat on HDs companywide.

Figure these guys turned their whole development model on its head and introduced a totally new platform for not only their own software development, but also for all developers who work on their platform.

MS develops from the dev tools on up. They create a platform at the core for software development and then they add the layers on top such as a UI and interfacing. The biggest changes in longhorn are deep and involve WoW (Windows on Windows) emulation, the .net framework core, indigo, Avalon and the various other frameworks that will make up longhorn.

Plus Windows 2003 shipped since xp.

From a development standpoint the dev tools that will be in longhorn are very strong. That part of MS's game is impressive to say the least.

5 years is a long stretch between major releases. The last one that was this long was the haul from NT4 to 2000. That one was worth it. I guess we'll have to see if this one pans out the same.

you really cant judge the look of theos until it comes out.  look at beta screen shots of xp and os x.  they do not look like the final product. you are all so bent on hating microsoft even if they came up with and idea that was amazin and it was implemented perfectly you would still say it sucked.

Well, their mice weren't the first optical ones on the market, but they're pretty nice mice.

i guess that was not suposed to be the  important part of the post.  the important part was the fact you cant judge the look of the os based an beta shots a year(at least) from the release

Office is pretty good as well and getting better.