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better yet, mock him

Thunderstruck wrote:

better yet, mock him

What?

Oh, MOCK him. Gotcha.

Congratulations!!

It's just too bad this one small victory will never erase the years of molestation.

But still... nice effort!  Keep that glass half-full!

brendave wrote:

What finally convinced him?

Windows XP, my PowerBook and his iPod.

Actually we had Macs when I was younger, but he once spent about $3000 on a PowerMac 6500 that was kind of a lemon and that sort put him off apple for a few years. So I guess he's a re-switcher of sorts.

pcguy wrote:

He should have wait to get a Mactel powerbook, unless he absolutely "need" one today!

Why wait a year? 

I wouldn't want one of the first Mactels anyway. Rev A on a completely new architecture.... uh, no thanks.

You should do the Dilbert "engineer's dance"....

Yeah, if what is available today will do the job, why wait? The Mactels in a year will be faster but that's always the case with the new stuff - unless Apple REALLY screws up and introduces a Powerbook that actually SLOWER than the current models....

why do people think that the first of the MacTels will have problems? Shouldn't it be easy to get it right hardware wise, since thats what EVERY OTHER computer maker is using also? I mean, if apple doesn't have to design every thing inside it, then how can they screw it up?

Superman wrote:

why do people think that the first of the MacTels will have problems? Shouldn't it be easy to get it right hardware wise, since thats what EVERY OTHER computer maker is using also? I mean, if apple doesn't have to design every thing inside it, then how can they screw it up?

You forget that it's a birthright of every Mac user to bitch incessently.

Thought the Dev machines where the Rev A Mactels. I haven't seen any reported big problems, and if there where odds are think secret would leak them.

Avari wrote:

Thought the Dev machines where the Rev A Mactels. I haven't seen any reported big problems, and if there where odds are think secret would leak them.

Not really - the dev machines really are just PCs - its a plain vanilla motherboard stuffed into a g5 case, its nothing that apple designed and tweaked and tried to get the most out of in a small shape like the powerbook line is. So no - they are the first Mactels out there, but they aren't the first intel-powerbooks or intel-iBooks out there, big difference.

Knobtwirler wrote:

Ya Rev A Mactels will quite simply have to either stomp out the present PBs or be considered lame. Problems with Rev A machines? I've never had any. That is pretty mythological territory. People are starting to think that these products are being put up for sale without any prior testing.

You obviously never had first (and second) revision white ibooks, TI powerbook g4s, 12inch ALU powerbook g4s, Yosemite (blue and white) g3s, powerbook 5300s, g4 cubes, classic Bondi iMacs, rev a and b eMacs, MDD g4s etc.

Every one of the above models had problems. the yosemite towers had smurfy ide chips, so putting in a second harddrive on the same cable as the hard drive that came with it led to massive data loss. They also had shoddy firewire ports that either A) broke physically, or B) had compatibility issues with many firewire peripherals.

The cubes had cosmetic problems with some of the first run cases.

The early iMacs had the analog board for the crt go bad ALL THE TIME, the eMacs had a similar problem which usually led to the bottom third of the display going completely black.

The 5300 powerbooks shipped with smurfy batteries made from Sony and had to be recalled - also the case plastic was crap and brittle and cracked all the time.

The original TI powerbook g4s had smurfy wifi reception, fragile backlight tubes, and a very delicate paintjob. Not to mention cd drives that often got wrenched out of alignment with the slot on the front - leading to being unable to load cds, or if you could a likelyhood of scratching the hell out of said cds.

The white ibooks and 12 inch g4 powerbook suffered from faulty graphics subsystems and video cables - requiring REPEATED motherboard replacements, and apple even extended coverage on this specific problem for several years because the replacements STILL had the same problems crop up.

The fans on the MDD G4 were annoyingly loud - and a software glitch with os X had them running at full speed (even LOUDER) ALL THE TIME, unlike os 9 which only spun them up as needed, and earlier / later patched versions of os X. Apple also provided fan replacement kits to swap out equivalent but quieter fans.


So don't go claiming that rev A problems don't exist. Because they smurfing DO. Every manufacturer gets them, especially if they both push the limit on design and specifications, and try to save bucks on the production cost where they can. Which is exactly what apple does.

Avari wrote:

Not really - the dev machines really are just PCs - its a plain vanilla motherboard stuffed into a g5 case, its nothing that apple designed and tweaked and tried to get the most out of in a small shape like the powerbook line is. So no - they are the first Mactels out there, but they aren't the first intel-powerbooks or intel-iBooks out there, big difference.

Knobtwirler wrote:

You obviously never had [a] first revision 12inch ALU powerbook g4s

I had one - nothing but problems until Apple completely replaced it with my present 1GHz for free 8 months after my original purchase.