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#51 2005-08-01 10:48 am
#52 2005-08-01 10:49 am
- IcarusFountain
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Wait wait wait... XYZ, Mo'ron, how exactly was what I said homophobic?
And XYZ, you calling me a homophobe has flat-out lost all respect I had for you. As I already said, you KNOW that I've agreed with you on many points of view before, and I've told you exactly my standpoint on people of alternative lifestyles. You KNOW that I'm accepting of them, and you KNOW that I'm all for equal rights for them.
I'd still like an explanation on how my statement was misinterpretted, but XYZ, as far as I'm concerned, the gloves are off. From now on, I refuse to keep an open mind about you because you obviously lack the ability to do return the favor. I've sided with you a lot (even when your approach could've been improved), and I've defended you both publicly and amongst mods, but somehow I knew that you'd call me a homophobe the instant I hit Submit on my post. Why? Because you show a pattern: anyone who doesn't agree with you 100% is automatically a homophobe in your mind. You, sir, are a heterophobe.
I'd prefer email responses, but if you'd prefer to keep things in the public eye, I'm fine with that, too.
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#53 2005-08-01 11:00 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
This thread is a great example of people thinking too highly of themselves in addition to thinking that everyone spends every second thinking about them. It isn't the person, it is the specific behavior.
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#54 2005-08-01 11:08 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Alien wrote:
Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:
Okay, how about: 'Moderators shouldn't break forum rules.'
I agree with that.
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#56 2005-08-01 11:16 am
- IcarusFountain
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
No. The difference is that Alien promised to cool down and ease up, whereas you're eager to lash out.
But our standard policy is to give people a chance to shape up (warn them) before we start with bans. As Alien said, Oatmeal contacted him about it.
Nice try, though 
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#58 2005-08-01 11:48 am
- IcarusFountain
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
I know (thus the wink). I'm saying that, if a member were to have a bad day and were to lash out out of character, we can understand that and will usually just issue a warning. If its someone who's known for their abbrasiveness, or who has already been warned recently, then more severe punishment is usually in order.
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#59 2005-08-01 1:15 pm
- IcarusFountain
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#60 2005-08-01 1:56 pm
- tomfoolery
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Alien wrote:

Kinda sums up the whole thread really. I'd truly love to add something more substantial to this groundbreaking, yet hilarious discussion, but I can see both sides... its a tricky one and no mistake.
tF
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#61 2005-08-01 2:01 pm
- dv
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Maybe he doesn't parley with breeders?
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#62 2005-08-01 2:26 pm
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#64 2005-08-01 4:25 pm
- ConnertheCat
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
gozer wrote:
Alien wrote:
As for the XYZ thing:
http://www.clubhouse54.com/phpbb2/image … /drama.gif
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.tsooJsome handsome young man must have made that.
Obviously not you then.
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#65 2005-08-01 4:29 pm
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
dvpierce wrote:
Maybe he doesn't parley with breeders?
Seriously, bad.
:starts dvpierce's-abusive-behavior thread:
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#66 2005-08-01 6:10 pm
Re: Alien's abusive behavior
ConnertheCat wrote:
gozer wrote:
Alien wrote:
As for the XYZ thing:
http://www.clubhouse54.com/phpbb2/image … /drama.gif
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.tsooJsome handsome young man must have made that.
Obviously not you then.

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#67 2005-08-01 7:02 pm
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
mo' ron wrote:
IcarusFountain did kind of make a homophobic comment though...
He's not the only one who is exhibiting homophobia and childishness. The incorrect assertion that I label anyone who disagrees with me a homophobe is a straw man argument, just like the one about my "antics" in the Rant Room topic I posted about in the opening post in this topic.
Alien called me a whiny bitch for correctly pointing out that the eWorld topic isn't a Rant and therefore doesn't belong in the Rant Room. I pointed it out, not with a whine, but in a completely innocuous way
there's really no need for all of this
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#68 2005-08-01 7:10 pm
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
NAG wrote:
This thread is a great example of people thinking too highly of themselves in addition to thinking that everyone spends every second thinking about them. It isn't the person, it is the specific behavior.
This topic is about bullying moderators.
It has nothing to do with my character, aside from the fact that nothing in the eWorld topic displays "whining" or me being a "bitch". I made a sardonic comment that was completely innocuous ("I thought eWorld was stupid."), and I followed it up with a perfectly relevant comment that pointed out that the topic isn't a rant. A poster sniped, posting the definition of rant, and I responded, quite correctly, by pointing out that the definition of rant doesn't disprove my correct point which is that the topic is not a rant. Alien called me a whiny bitch and a troll.
That's what this topic is about; the eWorld topic. People can try all they like to justify Alien's very inappropriate behavior with ficitious character assassination, but the topic itself stands alone. I should also suggest that, if we're going to look outside it to other topics in an attempt to attack me, why not take a look at another recent Rant Room topic, Debbie's Hillary Clinton topic. Tell me how I'm a whiny bitch in that topic. On the contrary, that thread, and so many more, illustrate how I'm one of the better posters in the forum. I write paragraphs that are carefully considered. I can think of a number of posters who posted in this topic who fall quite short of my performance.
there's really no need for all of this
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#69 2005-08-01 7:15 pm
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
I happens to be the truth that I felt eWorld was stupid. My mother's Performa came with it. The market agreed; eWorld didn't do well. If my honest opinion about eWorld, mildly sardonic or not, is an example of me being a bitch, I can't imagine how anyone so easily offended can survive an average MiniThink discussion let alone moderate the Rant Room.
there's really no need for all of this
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#70 2005-08-01 7:57 pm
- IcarusFountain
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Okay, so again, you've totally ignored my history with the topic and labelled me a homophobe, the only reason made apparent is that I disagreed with you.
If you can't give a good example of how I'm a homophobe, then you're only going to prove that you're exacty what people have said you are. I'm still waiting. Forget everyone else's obvious homophobia, and address me.
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#71 2005-08-01 8:09 pm
Re: Alien's abusive behavior
XYZ wrote:
This topic is about bullying moderators.
Yes. So stop doing that.
You've had your piece... 10 times. In this thread. Alone.
Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.
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#72 2005-08-01 8:10 pm
Re: Alien's abusive behavior
IcarusFountain wrote:
Okay, so again, you've totally ignored my history with the topic and labelled me a homophobe, the only reason made apparent is that I disagreed with you.
If you can't give a good example of how I'm a homophobe, then you're only going to prove that you're exacty what people have said you are. I'm still waiting. Forget everyone else's obvious homophobia, and address me.
You're a homophobe. You can't help it. You were born with it. Better learn to deal. 
Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.
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#73 2005-08-01 8:25 pm
- brendave
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
This has been good. Real good. It's a forum people! He said this and "whiney bitch" that are all par for the course. Mind you I have gotten a "notification" for things that I consider less harmful, but eh, who cares. If i spent my whole life pointing fingers, I wouldn't get anything else done.
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#74 2005-08-01 8:26 pm
- IcarusFountain
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Sorry, my dear boi de l'eaux, but all joking aside, I really want to hear why he thinks that I'm suddenly a homophobe when I've taken his side before, more often than not. If he has a real claim on this, I'd be more than glad to discuss it with him. So far, he has no basis for his (ahem) character assassination that he's trying to pull on me, and if he can't actually justify his attack on me (as I strongly suspect the case will be), then he's lost one of the few friends he had within the Squad. No one will try to defend him anymore when he further pisses people off.
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#75 2005-08-01 8:30 pm
- IcarusFountain
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
I'd have let it go, but he wrongly labelled me in such a manner that I actually have gotten quite offended. If he can justify it, I'll back off, but until then, he's ban-bait in my books.
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