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#101 2005-08-02 1:56 am

TheConfuzed1
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

NoExit wrote:

ha smurf you all !!

You forgot the death threat.


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#102 2005-08-02 2:51 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

MuckSavage wrote:

You think?

oh man
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#103 2005-08-02 3:07 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

For the record, I think so too.

Wow... I can't believe I read this whole thread.  That time, I can never reclaim.


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#104 2005-08-02 3:17 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

Habs24 wrote:

Yes. So stop doing that.

Donovan Osaya, is there any reason why you seem to feel the need to defender a moderator, even when he was clearly out of line? 

Users have all the right to complain, and if you don't have a problem with what Alien said in the linked thread, then you have major ethical issues.

Alien said:

You're quite welcome. Now kindly go smurf yourself and croak, will ya. You smurfing piece of human waste.

What if, what of, what if? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's nice and easy for ya, right there. Good thing they shot him, huh? I really,t ruly hope some copper someday will mistake you for a terrist and blow your smurfing head off.

No. NokX would die a happy man knowing that the guy blowing his dysfunctional brains out was doing the right thing by taking out the threat that is NokX. And the world would be a better place, rid of human garbage like him.

You are an idiot.

Difference is, I'm not about to betray the trust that others have placed in me.

Yeah, because you're obviously someone of high moral:

What if, what of, what if? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's nice and easy for ya, right there. Good thing they shot him, huh? I really,t ruly hope some copper someday will mistake you for a terrist and blow your smurfing head off.

If you want to be able to post as if you are just another poster you should at the very least be held to the same standards.

Their argument makes no sense. 

The moderators want to post like "any other member", but want the freedom of death wishes and insults, without being banned. 

I was called on it by Oatmeal (in private) and promised him to tone it down.

You had to be told to tone it down?   

You had to be told that death wishes were unacceptable? 

I'd hate to see what you would have said if Oatmeal didn't warn you.   By the way, we all know that if one of us had said the exact same things to a moderator, they'd all call for a banning. 

So, I'm free to call insult everyone now, right?  And I get off with just a warning?   Like Alien, I'm just 'any other member.'

Just own3d all of yall:lol:tongue

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#105 2005-08-02 3:39 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

i think you should all be killed and i hope you burn in hell !!


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#106 2005-08-02 4:36 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

XYZ wrote:

mo' ron wrote:

IcarusFountain did kind of make a homophobic comment though...

He's not the only one who is exhibiting homophobia and childishness. The incorrect assertion that I label anyone who disagrees with me a homophobe is a straw man argument, just like the one about my "antics" in the Rant Room topic I posted about in the opening post in this topic.

Alien called me a whiny bitch for correctly pointing out that the eWorld topic isn't a Rant and therefore doesn't belong in the Rant Room. I pointed it out, not with a whine, but in a completely innocuous way


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#107 2005-08-02 8:22 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

Still nothing from XYZ.  He must really be thinin' hard.

However, I am enjoying my conversation with Mo'ron. up  Check your email, yo!

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#108 2005-08-02 9:22 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

There you go again, Alien, being abusive by not allowing XYZ to be a mod of his own thread. Tsk tsk tsk.

XYZ, you do whine a lot. This thread is a perfect example of your whining ways.

You do toss out the "homophobe" label out at a hell of a lot of responses you simply disagree with. You've  called many gay-positive supporters and even a few gays on this board "homophobes" for smurf's sake just because they don't capitulate 100% to your personal "Act Up++;" viewpoint!. You have an amazing ability of turning people who even agree with some gay issue you bring up into personal enemies (note the diff, bud). You've pretty much isolated yourself of your own doing and created most of your opponents via the behavior of your personality/personalities.

I thought Alien's comments to NokX were unreasonable, but as has been noted, this has already been handled by Oats OFF the boards. THAT issue is closed and is certainly quite irrelevant to YOU in any case.

As for the "whiny bitch" comment, Alien may have stepped across the line of propriety a wee bit, but you jump across it with both feet quite regularly. If you'd care to explain why one utterance of "whiny bitch" is inherently more evil and deserving of special attention in this forum than your exceedingly common accusation of "homophobe" at practically anyone who doesn't agree 100% with YOUR personal politics (as if you were the final and unerring authority of all things gay), I'd like to see it.

You reap what you sow, pal. Your screech level cranks up to 11 much, much too often. As noted, this thread is one example of it. "Whiny" is therefore accurate, although I dunno about the use of "bitch" in the posts' original context - I've seen better examples of that. perhaps he should have, instead, used the phrase "whiny, self-important, pompous git" instead. I for one would certainly have agreed with that description of your online personality.

You're hardly a "new guy" here, so what you post in one instance isn't necessarily an isolated point - your history with other long-term members is taken into account. Yet another attempt to mod a thread you're not in a position to mod isn't just ONE isolated instance of mini-modding, it's another in a string of such actions. As is your history of calling people homophobic. Don't get all pissy because you're called on it.

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#109 2005-08-02 9:54 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

XYZ wrote:

NAG wrote:

This thread is a great example of people thinking too highly of themselves in addition to thinking that everyone spends every second thinking about them. It isn't the person, it is the specific behavior.

This topic is about...<snip>

And that changes my observation how?


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#110 2005-08-02 9:55 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

Alien wrote:

I did not call you a whiney bitch for that one comment. If you'd care to look around the forums a bit, that sort of comment usually merits a mere "we'll be the judge of that" or "you are not a mod" comment.

I called you a whiney bitch because you are, almost 100% of the time, acting like one.

So, you were trolling.

Since the trolling isn't justified, you're resorting to "look around the forums a bit".

I already covered that angle. Go to Debbie's discussion of Hillary Clinton and video game censorship. Show me where I'm a "whiny bitch".

Funny how your interest in gay issues has earned you this persecution by homophobes, while these same homophobes are forgetting all about, well, the other homos with interest in gay issues on these boards. Maybe they're not gay enough, or something.

It's a fact that, over the years, I've seen many posters, including mods, complain about the existence of topics concerning gay issues. It's a fact that people have given me a lot of grief for discussing gay issues and also holding them accountable in such discussions for homophobic or heterosexist views. Most of the other gay people here don't want to make waves and are reluctant to challenge posters to the degree I am willing to. Good MiniThink discussions require a willingness to take heat for challenging incorrect views.

There are others, like gradient and MysticCow, who troll with homophobic comments. They say they're gay or bi.

There you go again. Go start a blog, dude. You started this topic, be prepared to defend yourself.

I'm not the one who was out of line. You were.

They are supposed to moderate, not necessarily to be moderate.

Incorrect. In order to moderate, one must be moderate in order to keep order. Bad behavior, as you've shown, is not compatible with the moderator position in a quality forum.

There's nothing relevant about your whining about moderational issues, what with you not being a mod, and all.

There was no whining.

This whining angle is a straw man invented to defend your trolling.


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#111 2005-08-02 10:17 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

n00b

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#112 2005-08-02 10:20 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

registered_user wrote:

n00b

Yeah, well what do you really know......tongue

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#113 2005-08-02 10:23 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

XYZ wrote:

Alien wrote:

I did not call you a whiney bitch for that one comment. If you'd care to look around the forums a bit, that sort of comment usually merits a mere "we'll be the judge of that" or "you are not a mod" comment.

I called you a whiney bitch because you are, almost 100% of the time, acting like one.

So, you were trolling.

No, I was expressing my opinion of you.

Since the trolling isn't justified, you're resorting to "look around the forums a bit".

Riiiight.

I already covered that angle. Go to Debbie's discussion of Hillary Clinton and video game censorship. Show me where I'm a "whiny bitch".

No, you didn't cover that angle in the least. You asserted that my calling you a "whiney bitch" came out of the blue and was inspired by a single, isolated comment. Which it isn't as I've explained to you.

Funny how your interest in gay issues has earned you this persecution by homophobes, while these same homophobes are forgetting all about, well, the other homos with interest in gay issues on these boards. Maybe they're not gay enough, or something.

It's a fact that, over the years, I've seen many posters, including mods, complain about the existence of topics concerning gay issues. It's a fact that people have given me a lot of grief for discussing gay issues and also holding them accountable in such discussions for homophobic or heterosexist views. Most of the other gay people here don't want to make waves and are reluctant to challenge posters to the degree I am willing to. Good MiniThink discussions require a willingness to take heat for challenging incorrect views.

Riiiiight. Sure, whatever you say, pal.

There you go again. Go start a blog, dude. You started this topic, be prepared to defend yourself.

I'm not the one who was out of line. You were.

That's debatable. I say I wasn't, and you were.

They are supposed to moderate, not necessarily to be moderate.

Incorrect. In order to moderate, one must be moderate in order to keep order. Bad behavior, as you've shown, is not compatible with the moderator position in a quality forum.

Pull the other one.

There's nothing relevant about your whining about moderational issues, what with you not being a mod, and all.

There was no whining.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

Can't you get it through your thick skull that such classifcations are highly subjective? "There was no whining," my ass.

This whining angle is a straw man invented to defend your trolling.

No, it is an expression of what I see you as.

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#114 2005-08-02 10:24 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

Farmerkev wrote:

registered_user wrote:

n00b

Yeah, well what do you really know......tongue

nothing, so I guess I'll shut up  whaa

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#115 2005-08-02 10:30 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

XYZ wrote:

Alien wrote:

I did not call you a whiney bitch for that one comment. If you'd care to look around the forums a bit, that sort of comment usually merits a mere "we'll be the judge of that" or "you are not a mod" comment.

I called you a whiney bitch because you are, almost 100% of the time, acting like one.

So, you were trolling.

Since the trolling isn't justified, you're resorting to "look around the forums a bit".

First off, I see your accusation that I'm a homophobe isn't justified.  Hmm.  Pot calling the kettle black.

Secondly, "trolling" isn't defined as "observing a behavioral pattern and bringing it to the public eye".  "Troll: In the context of the Internet, a troll is a person who posts inflammatory messages intended to cause a disruption in discourse. The word is also often used to describe such messages."

You frequently disrupt discourse.  Alien does not.  You frequently are a troll.  Alien, aside from these 2 recent circumstances, has never been anything other than a total gentleman and excellent mod.

You're a coward; an insecure, lying, sniveling child who can't take it when things don't go your way.

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#116 2005-08-02 10:35 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

Alien, don't bother responding to him.  Everyone knows you are in the right on this - just feeding the troll.


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#117 2005-08-02 10:37 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

Alien, don't let other users tell you what to do.

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#118 2005-08-02 10:43 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

Alien, don't let other mods tell you what to do.

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#119 2005-08-02 10:46 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

Alien, don't let the voices in the head tell you what to do.


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#120 2005-08-02 10:48 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

Alien, don't let any ex-mods tell you what to not do.

Say, do we think XYZ's ego has been stroked enough in this thread to call it done? Or does Icarus really think XYZ will come up with a valid response?


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#121 2005-08-02 10:55 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

As I said before, I don't think he can muster it.  I'm just offering him the challenge.  I know he can't come up with anything worth reading at this point, and he knows it, so he's probably not going to even try now.

I'm thinking the thread is done, unless XYZ really can gather the testicular fortitude to respond.

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#122 2005-08-02 10:57 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

christian3807 wrote:

Habs24 wrote:

<snip>

Just own3d all of yall:lol:tongue

No, he didn't "own3d" us. He posted an opinion so hyperbolic and illogical that I've given up on refuting it. Anyone who thinks he has a strong point won't be convinced by my continued rebuttal, so I'm just leaving it.

Oh, and Joost won't get punished. Don't that just grind yer giblets?

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#123 2005-08-02 11:49 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

The least two posts combined read "testicle grind giblets."

I'm going to cross my legs and whimper now, thanks.


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#124 2005-08-02 11:53 am

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

lol

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#125 2005-08-02 1:38 pm

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Re: Alien's abusive behavior

we need a "don't feed the troll" Max.

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