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#1 2003-02-03 5:31 pm

kenikov
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Programming On Your Mac

Does anyone here do a programming language on their Mac?  I do Python, Applescript and Javascript.  Programming on my Mac is pretty nice, I even find it easier than on the PC for some reason.



So, I'm the newest member here eh?  Just thought I would get to know the fellow young mac users and let you know me.  I just came from the Macworld forums *shudders* full of yes-men that liked whatever Apple made, which concludes to them lacking logic.  You can see me at http://www.tpu.org usually or apple.com's messageboard (rarely).

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#2 2003-02-03 5:41 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

I program mainly in Squeak (a portable Smalltalk-80 implementation).

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#3 2003-02-03 5:45 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

Who doesn't like C++?  It's such a useful language.

Like Python .


By the way, these smileys suck...no offense.    big_smile

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#4 2003-02-03 5:59 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

#DEFINE QUESTION

(bb) || !(bb)

-Shakespeare


That is all...

Oh yah - Erf!

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#5 2003-02-03 6:00 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

Java/C++


How may I direct your call?

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#6 2003-02-03 6:01 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

AppleSoft BASIC! Oh, wait, you said Mac...
Hypertalk!


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#7 2003-02-03 6:43 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

I do moslty Java, C,  MC68HC11 ASM, Perl and VHDL(the latter not on my mac though).  I have done Webobjects,  Objective-C, C++,  Smalltalk, Basic PHP, Pascal,  and Applescript too,  but im not currently working with those languages. 

Just wait for Blutna or Rev to come and list off thirty  something langues that they like wink


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#8 2003-02-03 7:27 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

Who doesn't like C++?By the way, these smileys suck...no offense.    big_smile

From somebody else's signature (and more importantly, webpage) Smile Differenthttp://members.cox.net/registered_user/maxes/thumbs_up.gif

Just so you know, since you are new and all, that blue text is a link. smile

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#9 2003-02-03 7:49 pm

kenikov
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Re: Programming On Your Mac

------------------------------------------------------------------------I do moslty Java, C, MC68HC11 ASM, Perl and VHDL(the latter not on my mac though). I have done Webobjects, Objective-C, C++, Smalltalk, Basic PHP, Pascal, and Applescript too, but im not currently working with those languages.

I'm pretty computer-savvy and would like to learn even more programming languages.  Applescript will be my next.  In your opinion, is it easy to learn?  What have you made with it?  My cousin made his iMac say "Hello" when it opened in the begginning.  Which is pretty nice.   roll

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#10 2003-02-03 8:25 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

Lets see here.... Java,c++,c,html, javascript, and am learning cocoa at this time.

While on PC I do java, and c++ and those are just for my comp sci class.

And these emoticons are cool cool  cool . And evil evil  evil .

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#11 2003-02-03 8:28 pm

kenikov
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Re: Programming On Your Mac

------------------------------------------------------------------------Lets see here.... Java,c++,c,html, javascript, and am learning cocoa at this time.

HTML isn't a programming language.  Your school should of taught you that.....

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#12 2003-02-03 9:04 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

------------------------------------------------------------------------I do moslty Java, C, MC68HC11 ASM, Perl and VHDL(the latter not on my mac though). I have done Webobjects, Objective-C, C++, Smalltalk, Basic PHP, Pascal, and Applescript too, but im not currently working with those languages.

I'm pretty computer-savvy and would like to learn even more programming languages.  Applescript will be my next.  In your opinion, is it easy to learn?  What have you made with it?  My cousin made his iMac say "Hello" when it opened in the begginning.  Which is pretty nice.   roll

I'd say d/l the developer tools from apple and learn either c or java.

Some might argue C++,  but im in the train of thought that believes that its better to learn C before you learn C++,  and thats its better to learn a true Object Oriented language and not a partial one,  and I simply don't know enough smalltalk to pimp it.  If you are interested in java,  just d/l the developer tools from apple here (free w/ sign up) and then steal instructions from a school.  Like mine here  just go though the slides and then you should have a good base.

If you want to learn c get the "Big C book" aka "the old testament"    pictured here


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#13 2003-02-03 9:16 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

------------------------------------------------------------------------Lets see here.... Java,c++,c,html, javascript, and am learning cocoa at this time.

HTML isn't a programming language.  Your school should of taught you that.....

I don't know if i woudl really call javascript a programming language either.  Scripting yes,  programming no.   Im in this class now where the prof said we can do are assignments in any language we want.  My buddy thought he was very clever doing his in javascript.  The prof had the last laugh when we read the comment when he got his assignment back "any programming languag, not gloried html;  0/5"


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#14 2003-02-03 9:42 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

Javascript is based on java.  Just something simple you learn along the way of Webdesign.  It's closer to a language than HTML.  By the way, what University do you attend?  Simon Frasier University?  BCIT?  Those are both pretty good schools for computers.  I took a course on computers at BCIT when I was 12.

Your school should HAVE taught you how to use English properly.

I was actually doing some vernacular writing.  Since you insist I do formal, from now on, whatever you write.  I will correct. The worst thing a person can choose to do is correct my english.  It's just not smart, as I will torment the person's grammar and conjunctions till he/she never comes back to the messageboard again.

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#15 2003-02-03 9:54 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

Javascript is based on java. 

Nope,  javascript was just netscape trying to cash in the java name.  No relation as java was developed by sun.

By the way, what University do you attend?  Simon Frasier University?  BCIT?  Those are both pretty good schools for computers.  I took a course on computers at BCIT when I was 12.

The University of Victoria of course.  The forth rated comprehensive school in Canada.  But i think the fact that is doesn't look liek a prison more than makes up for the fact that SFU is rated one spot higher.


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#16 2003-02-03 10:05 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

Just something simple you learn along the way of Webdesign.

That's a fragment, and I don't think Webdesign is a word, nor should it be capitalized.

I will correct.

That's a fragment,too.

wink


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#17 2003-02-03 10:32 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

When I was going for the CS major, I used proj builder for C++ development. The only thing I would say VS.NET has over proj builder is the specifics in error messages and that little "this will turn into an error" message they throw at the bottom of the window. Like if you try calling a function you renamed a little earlier.

My roommate used his for C++ as well as Scheme projects, although any CS major at WWU will tell you that Scheme licks the cat's butt.

I should probably start developing again, as I told Apple that I was a student developer so I could get a rad t-shirt and a cheaper computer...   big_smile

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#18 2003-02-03 10:35 pm

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

I live in the states right now.  I will eventually have to move back to Canada.  Not to many elite Universities there anymore, but none are completely bad.  They are all average to above average. 

I'm hoping a can go to Caltech or M.I.T. by working my ass off even more than I already am.  Isn't Victoria University building a new medical wing?

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#19 2003-02-04 1:13 am

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

------------------------------------------------------------------------Lets see here.... Java,c++,c,html, javascript, and am learning cocoa at this time.

HTML isn't a programming language.  Your school should of taught you that.....

Cocoa isn't either, Objective-C is the language, Cocoa are (is?) the frameworks.
Cocoa is to Objective-C as Carbon is to C, and in a way as CGI is to Perl.

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#20 2003-02-04 1:14 am

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

Javascript is based on java. 

Nope,  javascript was just netscape trying to cash in the java name.  No relation as java was developed by sun.

It's original naem was Rhinoscript or something.  Simply looking at ANY aspect of javascript and java will show the only thing they have in common is their name.

Javascript is based on java.  Just something simple you learn along the way of Webdesign.  It's closer to a language than HTML.

This is true considering that HTML is not a programming language, thus ANY programming language is closer to Java than HTML.

I don't really consider javascript a true programming language either, if you get nitpicky and call it a scripting language.

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#21 2003-02-04 1:20 am

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

C++ is god to me.  Definately my favorite language.  We got into a big discussion over this in applewire i think a few months back.


Also, Objective-C is a wrapper for carbon and C, so I guess you could consider it not a true language either.  (Project Builder takes Objective-C turns it into C, then compiles it)

Sorry for the three posts.

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#22 2003-02-04 1:47 am

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

Isn't Victoria University building a new medical wing?

That and a new engineering classroom building to go with our current lab and office buildings.  That is if they can get rid of the hippies that are currently living in a tree protesting the fact that to make room for these two new building the school is going to cut down 20 some odd trees.  Thats right,  we have people living in trees for what is going on a month now to protest the school actually making use of the tuition hike.


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#23 2003-02-04 6:37 am

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

I do c++ javascript and a little applescript but I'm currently helping my cousin make a javascript adventure game similiar to the old zelda games. I'm doing the sound



By the way, these smileys suck...no offense.    big_smile

I have to aggree. they look like lemons confused Mmmmm... Lemons


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#24 2003-02-04 7:36 am

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Re: Programming On Your Mac


I don't think you guys read the magazine, do you?  Come on, its Max.

I have no idea what you mean by this who's max?


Monkeys rock!

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#25 2003-02-04 8:42 am

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Re: Programming On Your Mac

Actually I do read mac addict, and I know who max is I just don't like him. However I didn't know his name was Max.


Monkeys rock!

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