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I'm still confused about the whole "less government" thing.

This administration has federalized ALL of the security folks...I can't understand why you would want to make ANYONE a federal employee who wasn't one.  It's like asking your employees to suck.

They've created an entirely NEW government bureaucracy, which was admittedly first developed by democrats.  It makes sense for democrats to expand government, not the opposite.

Haven't you been paying attention? It isn't tax-and-spend... Bush wants to lower taxes.  And spend. Which means the money is coming from... er... hm. Good question.

I asked this question of my finance teacher, and he said that the only reason we can do that is because the entire monetary system of the world is based on the principle that the U.S. can't go bankrupt. Therefore, no matter how much anyone spends in the U.S. govt, nothing bad can happen. So we should just cut all taxes and spend, spend, spend.

No arguments from this conservative, all thru the state of the union I kept asking where the money tree was. Even without cutting tax's though, the budget was bust.

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Don't you mean "bah...baaaah...baaaaahhh..."

I don't think the death of 3000 warrants the sort of crazy smurf they have been doing. The government is getting much bigger... and it isn't conservatives and liberals making the government bigger, it's tyrants.

If we cut out the pork, we'd be so much more efficient. A lot of dough is lost in the levels of Bureaucracy. I believe they say Iraq will cost 50b or so... and the budget of NASA is 15b, after being cut a lot in the 1990s. Pitiful. Our national goal should be to get to Mars. I think that might help unite us as a nation.

I've finally decided that Bush isn't doing what is right for our country. We need a strong libertarian-minded leader. I think this would please most of America. Not too many social programs, and little government control over peoples morals and lives.

The war in Iraq is not what is good for our country! What is the damned agenda??? WHAT IS IT?????? There has to be one. We've heard several rallying calls to attack Iraq which have all been refuted and then replaced.

I'm worried (more than usual).

Clay, there are times when you make me stop being ashamed of being Texan.

I think he was just sort of making fun of himself Tallgeese.

Be proud of your heritage Northie! Is it just me, or did the media find the stupidest most hick looking people they could in Texas to interview for the shuttle crash?

We did good in Afghanistan. We made noticeable progress against an unfriendly government... we did put a dent in Al Quaida's operations. Now what exactly are we doing in Iraq? It's like it came from nowhere. All the sudden he's talking about the Axis of Evil and how we need to attack it. Unprovoked. More terrorism is on its way, thanks to our meddling in the mid-east. What a sh*itstorm over there... we need to stand back and let them work it out.

50+ billion spent to beat up Iraq like a dead rag doll. What are we currently budgeting to find alternative energy? Never mind that our borders are still wide open. What a fu**ing waste [of cash]. If a president could do things that would help the citizens long after he was in office, he would put that money to something better than Iraq.

George should just make a bunch of sandcastles on the beach and kick them over.

I think he was just sort of making fun of himself Tallgeese.

Be proud of your heritage Northie! Is it just me, or did the media find the stupidest most hick looking people they could in Texas to interview for the shuttle crash?

Sadly, Clay, my mother's family is from that area (my mamaw's place is only about 20 minutes from Palestine), and those slack jawed hicks are a pretty representative sample of the population.

Could you not beat that into the ground and start yet another damn flame war that could ruin another perfectly good thread?

Could you not be a pretentious uptight crack-monkey?

I guess that would be no for both of us.

I agree with the cut taxes part, but not the spend part.  Bush got it half right I guess, which honestly, is better than his to-date average.

ClayH:
If we cut out the pork, we'd be so much more efficient. A lot of dough is lost in the levels of Bureaucracy. I believe they say Iraq will cost 50b or so... and the budget of NASA is 15b, after being cut a lot in the 1990s. Pitiful. Our national goal should be to get to Mars. I think that might help unite us as a nation.

And far be it from me to remind you of the 40 billion a year on the drug war. Hey, maybe this "faith" based initiative will help. 


I agree, getting to Mars would most certainly be more productive than the thirty year old failure that so many people rely on and cling to. For some reason I thought the Iraq thing was going to be much more that 50b, I got the impression it would be the hundred billion figures. Who knows anyhow? How would one go about estimating how much a war would cost? It's not like going to the grocery store.

Anyhow, it's not like logic has anything to do with how much money the government spends on certain programs.

About the whole "Mission to Mars" thing...
Yeah, it would be a nice symbolic goal, but I think the billions of dollars it would take could be better spent here on Earth.  I'd be a bit more impressed if the money was spent making this world better rather than going off to screw over another planet...

On the other hand, jumping up Mons Olympus would be cool...

I didn't say that we should spend all of our money getting to Mars, I just said that it would be money better spent than some of the money syphoning failures that we are currently enduring. Just thought I would clear that up.

Incidentally, Doonesbury is doing a little series about the economy. Today's (Tuesday's) is hilarious. Check it out (after Tuesday you can just click on the calendar day to backtrack):

http://doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/