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#976 2005-11-07 1:15 pm

JakeTheTall
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

My response to the closed FSM thread:

the great FSM prophet wrote:

“My hope is that readers won’t know if I’m trying to make a point about pseudoscience or if I’m a complete nut,” says Henderson. “I’ll be really disappointed if it doesn’t spawn a cult.”


Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim.  Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet."  They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.

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#977 2005-11-07 1:52 pm

oatmeal
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

JakeTheTall wrote:

My response to the closed FSM thread:

the great FSM prophet wrote:

“My hope is that readers won’t know if I’m trying to make a point about pseudoscience or if I’m a complete nut,” says Henderson. “I’ll be really disappointed if it doesn’t spawn a cult.”

That's awesome.

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#978 2005-11-08 6:43 pm

jerwin
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

In addition, the board rewrote the definition of science, so that it is no longer limited to the search for natural explanations of phenomena.

Kansas School Board Casts Doubts on Evolution

Whoever controls the dictionaries, shall control the world...


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#979 2005-11-08 6:55 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Now, Pinky, if by any chance you are captured during this mission, remember you are Gunther Heindriksen from Appenzell. You moved to Grindelwald to drive the cog train to Murren. Can you repeat that?


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#980 2005-11-09 12:53 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.


Grandfatherly advice:  You can drink 'em pretty, but you can't drink 'em smart.

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#981 2005-11-09 6:31 pm

oatmeal
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

The second one is really good news.  The first?  Count me out of Kansas, thanks.  Dorothy can have it.

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#982 2005-11-09 6:50 pm

Hank Rearden
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

oatmeal wrote:

The second one is really good news.  The first?  Count me out of Kansas, thanks.  Dorothy can have it.

I bet that that's the first time that a local school board election made international news!

lol


The gross heathenism of civilization has generally destroyed nature, and poetry, and all that is spiritual. -John Muir-

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#983 2005-11-09 10:37 pm

mo' ron
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/09 … pace_mars/

This seems kind related to this thread, but it seems that lichen can survive in the vacuum and radiation of space. Cool.


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- Microsoft employees are excited about OSX.

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#984 2005-11-09 10:42 pm

brendave
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From: Valparaiso, IN
Registered: 2005-01-10
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

mo' ron wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/09/lichens_space_mars/

This seems kind related to this thread, but it seems that lichen can survive in the vacuum and radiation of space. Cool.

I liken what your post points to.  That stuff amazes me at every turn.  When I go hiking, it is the first green in the spring and the last that is green in the fall.  No wonder why St. Nicks herd thrive on it.  It is often confused for moss.

Edit by brendave:

You thinking about terra forming via moss?  Mars has water (ice).  If we would get photosynthesis going then maybe that would form an atmosphere?

Last edited by brendave (2005-11-09 10:47 pm)

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#985 2005-11-09 11:05 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

mo' ron wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/09/lichens_space_mars/

This seems kind related to this thread, but it seems that lichen can survive in the vacuum and radiation of space. Cool.

Hot damn!  That's got REAL potential for helping to terraform Mars.  Spread a few billion lichen around, wait two hundred years, we might be able to pull enough O2 out of the atmosphere to breathe. 

That's an optimistic statement, not an ironic pessimistic one. wink

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#986 2005-11-09 11:31 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Hey, it worked in red planet.......


The recent medical controversy over whether vaccinations cause autism reveals a habit of human cognition—thinking anecdotally comes naturally, whereas thinking scientifically does not. -- Michael Shermer

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#987 2005-11-09 11:33 pm

brendave
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

oatmeal wrote:

mo' ron wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/09/lichens_space_mars/

This seems kind related to this thread, but it seems that lichen can survive in the vacuum and radiation of space. Cool.

Hot damn!  That's got REAL potential for helping to terraform Mars.  Spread a few billion lichen around, wait two hundred years, we might be able to pull enough O2 out of the atmosphere to breathe. 

That's an optimistic statement, not an ironic pessimistic one. wink

Let us work on not trashing our planet first wink  Maybe then we can think about moving smile

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#988 2005-11-09 11:36 pm

oatmeal
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

brendave wrote:

oatmeal wrote:

mo' ron wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/09/lichens_space_mars/

This seems kind related to this thread, but it seems that lichen can survive in the vacuum and radiation of space. Cool.

Hot damn!  That's got REAL potential for helping to terraform Mars.  Spread a few billion lichen around, wait two hundred years, we might be able to pull enough O2 out of the atmosphere to breathe. 

That's an optimistic statement, not an ironic pessimistic one. wink

Let us work on not trashing our planet first wink  Maybe then we can think about moving smile

You kidding?  That leaves us with no place to go when we smurf this one up too badly to live on it anymore.

Ok, if.  smile

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#989 2005-11-10 12:37 am

Duke Stratosphere
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

No, I think it's "when," most likely. Somebody somewhere better be working on that warp drive already.


"Make the most of the hemp seed.  Sow it everywhere."  --George Washington (No party)

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#990 2005-11-10 12:45 am

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

oatmeal wrote:

JakeTheTall wrote:

My response to the closed FSM thread:

the great FSM prophet wrote:

“My hope is that readers won’t know if I’m trying to make a point about pseudoscience or if I’m a complete nut,” says Henderson. “I’ll be really disappointed if it doesn’t spawn a cult.”

That's awesome.

Hovind? Hovind, is that you?


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Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.

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#991 2005-11-10 11:04 pm

mo' ron
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

http://media5.big-boys.com/content/tradingspouses.wmv

This is what I picture when I think of YECs... hilarious.


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#992 2005-11-11 12:42 am

Duke Stratosphere
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

mo' ron wrote:

http://media5.big-boys.com/content/tradingspouses.wmv

This is what I picture when I think of YECs... hilarious.

Ain't that kind of more psychotic than hilarious?


"Make the most of the hemp seed.  Sow it everywhere."  --George Washington (No party)

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#993 2005-11-11 4:21 am

Metacell
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Psychotic implies outside the normal range.  Unfortunately, you're looking at half of America right there (no fat jokes).


Ho Eyo He Hum

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#994 2005-11-11 1:13 pm

MysticCow
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Is there a way to incorporate Intelligent Design concepts without either:

A. Making it some kind of ultra-Christian crap or

B. Absolutely mocking it in a science textbook

I think there could be room for it in a science class if it's done under "competing theories" or something like that and not even mention one particular religion.  So is something like this possible?

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#995 2005-11-11 2:42 pm

user
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Except ID is not a competing scientific theory.

There is no way to "incorporate" ID without teaching the children that there is something wrong with the scientific method, which would be a great disservice to them, seeing as how they drive cars, use computers, and cook with microwaves.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#996 2005-11-11 10:45 pm

MysticCow
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

But if we're talking about the origin of the universe, all we have are "best guesses"

If we're talking about evolution, then there is a lot of evidence to support the evolutionary process.  Evolution still doesn't explain the origin of the universe.

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#997 2005-11-12 5:35 am

Metacell
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

No, the big bang theory is not a guess.  It can be measured to within 1/50th of a second of its beginning.  Of course, it is currently wide open to various speculation and variable interpretation and continues to change, but as it can be quantified it is much more than a guess.


Ho Eyo He Hum

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#998 2005-11-12 11:20 am

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

1/50th of a second sounds pretty good -- I'll take that one!

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#999 2005-11-12 11:48 am

Metacell
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From: The space between the spaces
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Posts: 5864
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Incidentally, you can pickup the cosmic background radiation of the big bang on your TV set.  It's the snow!  (I know its hard these days with cable.)  If you stare at it long enough, you will get a special message from God.


Ho Eyo He Hum

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#1000 2005-11-12 12:34 pm

Sassy
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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

mo' ron wrote:

http://media5.big-boys.com/content/tradingspouses.wmv

This is what I picture when I think of YECs... hilarious.

I don't know where this clip came from, but it isn't funny. It's dreadful. It is a graphic show of fear at its worse.

This poor woman is in terror! She's in a hysterical fit with terror! That's what comes with being so terrified of the 'wrath' of god that she's willing to do anything to save herself and her family. This is religion at its awesome, fanatic realization.

It must be akin to what the terrorist feels when pulling the trigger that releases the explosives embracing his/her body. It's insane!http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/flamewar.gifhttp://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/endnigh2.gif


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