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Life must have been easier when the communists didn't make all the kids' toys.

Chickenhawk wrote:

Tria wrote:

Yeah.  I'd also point out that in California, at least, a 3.9 doesn't guarantee you admission to a selective school.  I had a 3.8 and was rejected from UCLA and UC Berkeley.

Tria wrote:

Yeah, well, I got into UW with a 2.9

The gpa really does depend on the ranking of the school against other ones, my high school was one of the best public schools in jersey, and very competive, so a 3.9 from there goes alot further than a 3.9 from trenton. The gpa is more important than the sat though....

no it doesnt. it totally depends on where you are going.

gpa doent mean smurf, your scores dont mean smurf unless the school your applying to makes it important.

Chickenhawk wrote:

Tria wrote:

Yeah.  I'd also point out that in California, at least, a 3.9 doesn't guarantee you admission to a selective school.  I had a 3.8 and was rejected from UCLA and UC Berkeley.

Tria wrote:

Yeah, well, I got into UW with a 2.9

Different GPAs.  One was my undergraduate, the other high school.

VegasACF wrote:

I still want to know why a kid with a 3.9 GPA doesn't know the difference between plural and possessive forms of words, though.

I never said I had a 3.9, that is what the thread starter had. I had more like a 3.1, 3.2.

Habs24 wrote:

Money? 

Is it true that any college will accept you in the US if you had enough cash?

I'm sure money probally helps, but my cousin got into USC without having money. My brother the same way for Med school, although more often than not people going there had money or their parents did.

VegasACF wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

...so a 3.9 from there goes alot further than a 3.9 from trenton...

No.  A 3.9 from there goes a lot farther than a 3.9 from Trenton.

Alotisnotoneword.  In general, avoid using a lot. There are multitudinous, myriad, diverse, divers, many, synonyms.

But further is permissible usage in the context above: Use further when you are speaking of continuation; use farther when you're referring to a distance that can be measured with even a theoretical yardstick. He spoke further. Mars is farther away from earth than Venus is.

In this oddball case above, then, either further (a 3.9 continues much more) or farther (a 3.9 goes a greater distance) works.

Last edited by debbiedowner (2005-09-05 3:07 pm)

Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:

I think dd just performed the linguistic equivalent of invading Poland.

tF

What you hate about others is often what you hate about yourself. 

debbiedowner wrote:

But further is permissible usage in the context above:

No it's not.  This is an attempt to apply your phony-baloney-plastic-banana-good-times-rock-and-roll-nothing-is-incorrect-so-everybody-can-feel-good-about-themselves mentality to the rules of grammar.  I'm sorry (not really), but it's just not right.  What you describe is an adjective.  Further, so used, is an adverb.  The context of the sentence above requires "farther" not "further."  Please do not further bastardize the English language with your faux rules.

Oh, and by the way, the feeling is mutual. 

I just performed the linguistic equivalent of August 6, 1945 and debbiedowner would be Hiroshima.

Sorry, I don't see the problem. "Further" can be either adjective or adverb ; OED reckons it can be used either in the physical sense of "farther" or its traditional abstract sense in both forms.

Edit: Sorry, I deleted my post when I more understood what you mean ; guess you most of quoted me while/before I was doing so..

Last edited by Zetetic Apparatchik (2005-08-29 9:05 am)

AAAAAAAAARGH !! One of us slow down!

VegasACF wrote:

Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:

Sorry, I don't see the problem. "Further" can be either adjective or adverb ; OED reckons it can be used either in the physical sense of "farther" or its traditional abstract sense in both form.

Further means "more distant in degree, time or space" or "additional."  Neither definition fits in that sentence.  Farther is the correct word.

My OED lists the definition of "further" and "farther" as adverbs to be exactly the same except for the additional possible use of "further" to mean "additional to what has already been done." ; the only difference listed is in the usage – abstract vs. actual.

[Linguistic equivalent of the Soviet Liberation of China in 1943 and Finland in 1946 ]

Last edited by Zetetic Apparatchik (2005-08-29 9:34 am)

Tria wrote:

While that may be true for candidates with work experience, for that guy trying to land the intro position and no prior work history, I think the degree becomes more important.  Example, for people with no work experience, it's highly unlikely that the guy without the degree in materials science is going to be better at engineering materials than the guy who has one.

I agree that once you get 3-5 years of work experience, your degree basically becomes meaningless.

I agree to an extent.  But having that degree also can offer more job security than not having a degree.  If one has the experience but has not the degree and someone comes along with the degree and the experience that person is likely to end up with the job in the long run.

the W'rkncacnter wrote:

bloomsday wrote:

and i dig the SVT Focus.

Me too.  My father has a Focus SVT 5 door, I like it a lot, it's an acceptable substitute to my Cooper S when I'm back home.

"acceptable substitute..." - you're joking, right?

Unless you are talking about an original Cooper S, I don't see how you can prefer the Mini. However, that may be because I just really don't like the BMW Mini. I like beemers, I like (real) Minis, but they are totally different cars, and IMO the mix just feels wrong. However, I've never seen a SVT in the flesh - don't think we have them here. But our forthcoming Focus ST looks HOT. And the previous Focus RS was pretty amazing too. I'm guessing the SVT is kinda like the latter.

That said, the new Mini is a darn sight better than MY current car, but that's a whole other rant... OMFG, wrong room.

tF