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cbaines wrote:

I just came from a two hour speech by an Iraqi-American who converted to Christianity and spoke about the Islamic agenda. He indicated that the Islamic movement was being aided by the ACLU, liberal press bias, Hollywood, and such. He said everything our founding fathers believed in is under attack by revisionist.

What is the deal here? Why is it so fashionable to dis America and dis Christians in particular?

(Addressing only the part of your post that implies Islam=attack on Christianity and its ideals)

Anyone who is educated on things like

a) Christian history
b) Christianity
c) Middle Eastern History
d) Islamic history
e) Islam
f) Reading

understand that the only tension between Islam and Christianity exists when extremists on either side (Falwell, Robertson, Bob Jones, etc. v. Al-Zaqawari, Bin Laden, Hamas, etc.) choose to create it.

If Christianity and Islam are naturally opposed to each other, how do you explain the 400 years of cultural effloresense in Spain while Jews, Christians, and Muslims created one of the more advanced societies in the world for its time?

Further, I hope you can admit, or at least acknoweldge the inherent racism of your post.

"Islamic movement?"

Should I bother asking just what in God's name this clown is talking about?

Damn Hollywood LIEberals.

KHannon wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

"Islamic movement?"

Should I bother asking just what in God's name this clown is talking about?

Islamic Movement: A not so clever way of referring to Islam so as not to appear as a hater of a major world religion composed of 1.5 billion people.

Well, that's the way I read it too. But I was having trouble believing someone could subscribe to such a knuckle-draggingly stupid notion while still being able to type.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

KHannon wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

"Islamic movement?"

Should I bother asking just what in God's name this clown is talking about?

Islamic Movement: A not so clever way of referring to Islam so as not to appear as a hater of a major world religion composed of 1.5 billion people.

Well, that's the way I read it too. But I was having trouble believing someone could subscribe to such a knuckle-draggingly stupid notion while still being able to type.

You were having trouble with that? How long have you been posting here again? I mean come on now...

ShnickyShnack wrote:

jax wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Well, that's the way I read it too. But I was having trouble believing someone could subscribe to such a knuckle-draggingly stupid notion while still being able to type.

You were having trouble with that? How long have you been posting here again? I mean come on now...

I guess I went from innocent to jaded to cynical to numb and back to innocent again. Dammit!

Ya, it's a vicious cycle. I remember when I use to put a whole lot of effort into my posts/arguments especially the evolution ones. Now many many threads later, I realize no one was really listening. Now I just wing it off the top of my head.

And hard-working Muslims they are.

Ra wrote:

understand that the only tension between Islam and Christianity exists when extremists on either side (Falwell, Robertson, Bob Jones, etc. v. Al-Zaqawari, Bin Laden, Hamas, etc.) choose to create it.

Not necessarily. Why would you consider Pat Robertson a radical Christian? Is he beheading people, or just blowing them-up?

No, no, he's just advocating one person's assassination. I don't know why people are making such a fuss.

Ra wrote:

There are some sectors within Islam where all religions, except for Islam, are considered "infidel."

Yeah, like there are some sectors of the solar system where gravity more or less applies.

Ra wrote:

However, there are areas around the world where islamic member get along with other religions. India is is one of such places,

Bahrain is another.

Ra wrote:

but even so there are clashes every now and then. In most Islamic nations, Christians are being prosecuted.

You probably misspelled "persecuted" there. They were only prosecuted in Communist countries, as far as I know.

Ra wrote:

Please note that I mentioned India, simply because there are quite a lot of Muslims over there when compared to the US and a few other places. The last I heard there were approximately 130 million Muslims in India.

smurf India. They destroyed the Beatles.

Phydeaux wrote:

duke wrote:

smurf India. They destroyed the Beatles.

By WHAT, furnishing a breeding ground for mini- Yoko Onos? Geez.

Yoko didn't break up the Beatles. It was that damn Maharishi and his Transcendental Meditation.

I expect the Ledeen/Hal Lindsay type factions of the war movement to try to whip up plenty of anti-Islamic hate as Iraq morphs into an Islamic republic with sharia law at its centre, and its clerics move to almost be in lock-step with Iran.  This will upset a lot of people who thought they were promised otherwise.

As far as considering who's an infidel, our own Resedit considers non-christian to be infidels. That's not an uncommon christian attitude. And Pat Roberstson is on record saying only judeo-christians must be allowed to hold positions in the U.S. government.

Last edited by Ribtorus (2005-08-29 6:44 am)

I don't understand what's wrong the ACLU (or its activities) in general. I'm guessing you object to their protection of pornography as free speech or possible it's drug decriminalisation campaign.

Who ya gonna call?