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#1 2005-09-30 8:18 am

Zaimejs
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Blocks at your school?

I was just wondering what kind of filters and blocks your schools have on the computers... if any.  Tell me what school you go to (if you want just high school, college, etc.) and how the filters are set up.

I teach at a high school, and it's hard for me to know because they took the blocks and filters off of the teacher's accounts, but the students still run into blocks. I recently started a livejournal blog that I've tried to share with a few teacher friends of mine, but they are finding that they can't get to it because livejournal is blocked.

I would eventually like to write a paper about this "problem" (as I see it). So any info you can give me is much appreciated!


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#2 2005-09-30 9:53 am

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Re: Blocks at your school?

Colleges, at least the 3 I've been to, don't block anything.

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#3 2005-09-30 10:17 am

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Re: Blocks at your school?

I was thinking that too... colleges are probably open. 

Anybody here still in HS?


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#4 2005-09-30 10:42 am

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Re: Blocks at your school?

I remember my old  school district programmed their own blocking software.  It blocked obvious things, like pornography and violence, but also blocked things of a religious nature, and a lot of historical sites.

I was like, what gives? shrug

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#5 2005-09-30 11:06 am

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Re: Blocks at your school?

I know that there is this one site that lets you browse google without technically leaving the site, bypassing all blocks.


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#6 2005-09-30 12:41 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

When I was in high school they used a kill-all blocking system. It pissed me off because it blocked the onion.


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#7 2005-09-30 1:25 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

at my high school we had a total blocking system that blocked almost every site out there, including google.  After about a week our entire server system went down or something, so we didn't have internet for like a semester, and when it came back, the block was gone.

here at UCB, there are no blocks at all that I've run into.


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#8 2005-09-30 2:30 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

back when i was in high school, they had this crazy high-tech filter...it was so crazy it blocked the internet

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#9 2005-09-30 5:45 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

currently the internet is only available through proxies.


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#10 2005-09-30 7:10 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

High Schools block everything.

Today I played WoW in one of my college's many libraries.


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#11 2005-09-30 7:30 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

My school isn't too bad, but no one really uses those computers for much. I'll ask a tech person what kind of filters we have.

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#12 2005-09-30 7:45 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

I'm in high school, everything from Gmail to wikipedia (I know wtf?) is blocked.


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#13 2005-09-30 9:22 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

theres a facebook group at my school called "i watch porn in the library"

yeah colleges block nothing.


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#14 2005-09-30 9:24 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

I am at a school that goes through 9th grade (so one grade of high school) and it doesn't seem to have much if anything blocked. At least I've never run into a block.

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#15 2005-09-30 10:29 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

High Schools should block things. Tax dollars and all.

Colleges, on the other hand, when I was there, I was paying too damn much for an internet connection for anything to be blocked.

While at an orientation at Northland, I hid off and over-listened to the Parent's Q&A while the other Freshmen were doing some orientation game. One pair of parents asked the IT head if the school blocked porn sites. And if they didn't, if they could for their kid. How mortifying.


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#16 2005-10-01 12:39 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

That doesn't make much sense... colleges also use tax dollars (at least public ones) and they don't block anything.

Public Schools have books in libraries with material that would be blocked if it were on the internet.  That's what I don't get.


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#17 2005-10-01 1:24 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

But those tax dollars aren't intended to babysit children.  Mostly because they can and do tell parents to stfu.

My college only had blocks on the dorm networks, eventually.  At first you could do whatever, then slowly they shut up the ports for Kazaa and BitTorrent.  And there have always been bandwidth limitations for individuals, but they were pretty high.  I forget the circumstances but for some reason all internet access for students was turned off and when it returned things like AIM were blocked.  Riots ensued and it was back on in a day.  I think they flipped the network into "safe mode" because the Iraq war was starting, for whatever sense that made.

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#18 2005-10-01 1:37 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

I'm a junior at a Jesuit HS in San Fran, (www.siprep.org if it matters). Despite the fact that its a catholic school, thier blocking system is fairly leinant. They have a hardware filter onsite, which they update regularly. Generally speaking, the only things blocked are porn, proxies, games (we had a runescape addiction crisis a few years ago), and myspace/xanga/ (facebook is relativley unknown at high school, so its still open). Google et. al are unblocked.

If we do try to access a blocked site, we get redirected to a page that lets us submit a help request to get the site unblocked.

Hope that helps...


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#19 2005-10-01 5:25 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

Zaimejs wrote:

That doesn't make much sense... colleges also use tax dollars (at least public ones) and they don't block anything.

Yeah, I didn't initially go to a public school. So there.
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#20 2005-10-01 7:31 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

It's been a while since I was at school or collage but I did some voluntary work a couple of years ago and it was amazing. School - everything is blocked; no matter what and then unblocked in the case of five students or less per teacher. Collage - Unlimited access to anything and everything through Admin accounts...

Nope, I don't understand it either.

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#21 2005-10-01 11:13 pm

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Re: Blocks at your school?

Mt school blocks mostly porn, but is reasonable with other sites like wikipedia, somethingawful, and penny-arcade. We also have a wireless system that does not block anything, because it's your computer. My high school is awesome.


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#22 2005-10-02 12:25 am

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Re: Blocks at your school?

iHoult wrote:

It's been a while since I was at school or collage but I did some voluntary work a couple of years ago and it was amazing. School - everything is blocked; no matter what and then unblocked in the case of five students or less per teacher. Collage - Unlimited access to anything and everything through Admin accounts...

Nope, I don't understand it either.

*Remember, this is England we are talking though.

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#23 2005-10-02 12:45 am

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Re: Blocks at your school?

Tria wrote:

Colleges, at least the 3 I've been to, don't block anything.

Some of them block bittorrent and other P2P apps.
It is amazing at public universities how much taxpayer money goes to students using the pipe for serving their music collections via P2P. Utterly amazing and disgusting.

Some universities have blocked it - interestingly enough, it seems to be more commonly blocked at private universities where the tax payer isn't ultimately footing the bill ...


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#24 2005-10-02 2:17 am

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Re: Blocks at your school?

resedit wrote:

Tria wrote:

Colleges, at least the 3 I've been to, don't block anything.

Some of them block bittorrent and other P2P apps.
It is amazing at public universities how much taxpayer money goes to students using the pipe for serving their music collections via P2P. Utterly amazing and disgusting.

Some universities have blocked it - interestingly enough, it seems to be more commonly blocked at private universities where the tax payer isn't ultimately footing the bill ...

At my college, internet access is an extra fee. It's subsidized by public money, but the students are practically paying for their internet connection, so they should be able to use it however they want.


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#25 2005-10-02 2:46 am

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Re: Blocks at your school?

mo' ron wrote:

resedit wrote:

Tria wrote:

Colleges, at least the 3 I've been to, don't block anything.

Some of them block bittorrent and other P2P apps.
It is amazing at public universities how much taxpayer money goes to students using the pipe for serving their music collections via P2P. Utterly amazing and disgusting.

Some universities have blocked it - interestingly enough, it seems to be more commonly blocked at private universities where the tax payer isn't ultimately footing the bill ...

At my college, internet access is an extra fee. It's subsidized by public money, but the students are practically paying for their internet connection, so they should be able to use it however they want.

If you pay for it - sure.
It is when the tax payer is paying that I have some issue.

Dad was (now retired) sysadmin at Berkeley - during the Napster days, something like 70 to 80 percent of the outgoing bandwidth from Cal was Napster. Incoming bandwidth wasn't quite as bad - students got a lot of their songs from other students within the berkely network - but Californias were paying a large chunk of change for Bekely to acts as a huge Napster host for the rest of the world. I have a slight problem with that - that IT money could have been spent in better ways than giving often poorly encoded mp3's away.


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