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Macskeeball wrote:

MB38 wrote:

I love how people make up their prediction of what the announcement based on what would suit them best.  It doesn't matter if there's absolutely no evidence to support it, people will still tote it as their honest prediction of what is to come.

If this is in response to posts in this thread, there is a little evidence for my prediction (and any others involving an iTunes video store and/or iPod video). I had already posted a link but here is the link again in thumbnail form for the lazy.

http://macskeeball.no-ip.com/forums/mac … mbnail.png
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umm... i'm pretty sure that has been utilized before...
here
and here

On earlier iPods, your only means to confirm the complete transfer of photos and camera-made movie files was to check the number of items your camera showed against the number the iPod shows; if they matched up, you could assume that it’s safe to erase your memory card. But on the iPod photo, that’s been improved: after downloading a “Roll” of film, you can immediately dive into a collection of your photographs and movies that appears in the iPod photo’s standard photo display mode. Movies are represented by small circular icons, which if clicked upon indicate that they cannot be viewed on the device’s screen.

as for the video images.. try dragging a .mov file onto itunes. this is old news.

Last edited by Freezer mac (2005-10-04 11:08 pm)

Freezer mac wrote:

Macskeeball wrote:

MB38 wrote:

I love how people make up their prediction of what the announcement based on what would suit them best.  It doesn't matter if there's absolutely no evidence to support it, people will still tote it as their honest prediction of what is to come.

If this is in response to posts in this thread, there is a little evidence for my prediction (and any others involving an iTunes video store and/or iPod video). I had already posted a link but here is the link again in thumbnail form for the lazy.

http://macskeeball.no-ip.com/forums/mac … mbnail.png
(click to embiggen)

umm... i'm pretty sure that has been utilized before...
here
and here

On earlier iPods, your only means to confirm the complete transfer of photos and camera-made movie files was to check the number of items your camera showed against the number the iPod shows; if they matched up, you could assume that it’s safe to erase your memory card. But on the iPod photo, that’s been improved: after downloading a “Roll” of film, you can immediately dive into a collection of your photographs and movies that appears in the iPod photo’s standard photo display mode. Movies are represented by small circular icons, which if clicked upon indicate that they cannot be viewed on the device’s screen.

as for the video images.. try dragging a .mov file onto itunes. this is old news.

You totally missed a major part: the plainly labeled "buy video" and "gift video" buttons. Look closer along the left side.

Last edited by Macskeeball (2005-10-05 12:55 am)

I just saw that, and it inspired my latest avatar:

I hope it's not iPod related...

MB38 wrote:

lord funk wrote:

There's absolutely no way this isn't iPod related, so I'm not excited at all.

You know what...?  I'm the same.  I'm just not stoked about this event.  I'm thoroughly disenchanted with the iPod.

Why?

And like I said before, anything on the SKUs that you can hint at?

MB38 wrote:

Don't know what an SKU is.

I'm sorry; I was trying to come off cooler than what I really am.

From your inventory receivables -- stuff that belongs to the same family of products that's carried right now, or anything that's completely new?

And I'm disenchanted with the iPod because it's a music player.  That's it.  It doesn't increase my productivity, it doesn't make my life considerably better, it just plays music.  No matter how cool or small it gets, it's designed to play music.  It's a one-trick pony to me and I just no longer see what the big deal is.  I love my iPods to death, don't get me wrong, but I'm just not excited by the prospect of an iPod that haphazardly plays videos.  Great, now it's a device that plays music and videos... why?

I dunno.  I want computers and thoughtful software.

I could care less about videos myself. I try my best to cram functionality into the iPod. The podcasts being whipped out during that iTunes update was important, because it did throw in something that could be more useful than just music. I know that TWiT is a highly educational tool that I listen to every time one comes out, and the iPod+iTunes just makes the organization of getting it much easier. Aside from Apple's promotion stuff, I definitely like being able to keep a back up list of my contacts and datebook that I usually keep on my phone(s) handy on the iPod, in case I destroy a phone or it's battery goes dead and I need to access a number for a phone call when the iPod is still kicking. Oh. And I've got a Bible loaded into it, so that a nice thick book is one less thing I have to carry around and can just whip up what I need on the 'pod.

Could a Palm Pilot do the same jobs? Sure. But is it pwetty, simple and awe-inducing? No. But you know all this.

TheConfuzed1 wrote:

Last week MB38 didn't know that Safari could open a folder of bookmarks into separate tabs, and now he doesn't know what a SKU is... Not only am I questioning his Apple geniusness now, but his retail experience entirely!  Can this guy be for real?

The next thing he'll tell us is that his name isn't really MB38... 

I have a SUPER APPLE SECRET FOR YOU.

If you take an IMAC 20' off the stand and then SLAME ITON THE FLOOR

it'll break. and candy won't come out.

cerberus_tl wrote:

I think we will see video through airport express before we see a video ipod.
so... that's my guess. Video Airport Express. (But with an even dumber name)

Wow, yeah, good call.

cerberus_tl wrote:

Phydeaux wrote:

TheConfuzed1 wrote:

Last week MB38 didn't know that Safari could open a folder of bookmarks into separate tabs, and now he doesn't know what a SKU is... Not only am I questioning his Apple geniusness now, but his retail experience entirely!  Can this guy be for real?

The next thing he'll tell us is that his name isn't really MB38... 

I have a SUPER APPLE SECRET FOR YOU.

If you take an IMAC 20' off the stand and then SLAME ITON THE FLOOR

it'll break. and candy won't come out.

OMG 20 FOOT IMAC!

What are you guessing the price will be on that?

Utilizing SUPER AWESOME STATE OF THE RAT technlolology

The usually MORE EXPEN$IVE THAN A 1337 SYST3M LCD SCREEN OF a MACS WILL INSTEAD BE MADE OF RAT GUTS

By rat guts, I mean ACTUAL RAT GUTS and heavy-duty industrial shredded Mighty Mice. Mouses. Might smurfy Human interface devices. Whatever.

cerberus_tl wrote:

Phydeaux wrote:

cerberus_tl wrote:

OMG 20 FOOT IMAC!

What are you guessing the price will be on that?

Utilizing SUPER AWESOME STATE OF THE RAT technlolology

The usually MORE EXPEN$IVE THAN A 1337 SYST3M LCD SCREEN OF a MACS WILL INSTEAD BE MADE OF RAT GUTS

By rat guts, I mean ACTUAL RAT GUTS and heavy-duty industrial shredded Mighty Mice. Mouses. Might smurfy Human interface devices. Whatever.

I think controlling a computer by manipulating a pile of rat guts would be great. Shape it into a pile that is most ergonomic then- push, squeeze, and splat your way to computing bliss. Also, keep one mouse alive in your pile for the rumble pack effect.

That would be entirely unnecessary

...and I was going to so totally take this to the next, worst, most tasteless level, but heavens to betsy, I've been pushing it in this thread too far already.

OK, so Steve-o has dismissed the idea of video on the iPod in the past, writing it off by saying "why would anyone want to watch video so small?" or something of that nature.

And that's about right.

However, it's been my suspicion that the iPod was designed from the outset to be a multi-function device; I believe this is why they chose the enigmatic name "iPod": a "pod" doesn't specifically reference music. Already, it can serve as a digital music player and a portable data storage device.

So, presuming Jobs' stance on portable video stands, yet we still lend credibility to the rampant rumors of the impending video iPod, then what would be the purpose of video technology on the iPod? The only scenario I can see meeting the utilitarian demands typically established by Apple is QuickTime integration in the iPods for the implied purpose of acting as a portable media storage and playback device. However, that in and of itself would contradict the previous reasons for NOT integrating video on the iPod...so I'm thinking there will be additional (practical) functionality, and I believe that functionality will be on-the-fly video capture and playback.

Of course, with USB2 now being the standard on iPods, I'm not sure how that would work (since I think most USB ports on DV cams are typically for still photo functionality); it may require a reintroduction of the FireWire port.

So, if this does end up being an announcement of a video iPod, I think there will be at least two parts: [1] the announcement of a new iPod that will take full advantage of the new features, and [2] a firmware revision that will add at least basic playback features to some existing iPods.

Of course, there may be something in there relating to utilizing the iPod as an on-the-go Podcast studio. After all, the nano (and the "regular" iPod) models come with a "line in" function that has yet to be tapped (at least on the nano). Perhaps whatever is announced here may utilize that ability.

Of course, it's late (or early, in my case), and I'm not yet lucid, so I could very well be talking (or typing) out of my ass. However, whatever is announced, I don't think it will simply be video playback ability on the iPod; it'll be a bit more impactful and/or useful than that.

OK. I'm not one of the folks who can claim to know -- so I'll ask:

I guess since, what '97/'98, what has Steve pulled out after saying, "Just one more thing..."? My spidey-sense tells me it's usually somethng audacious. If memory serves, didn't he say that just before mentioning that he had been using an Intel machine last June?

I say, look for something completely new. Like 'Think Different."
Only six more days to find out.
That is all. Thank you.

iPod Cinema.

But honestly, I'm waiting for that Mini revision.  I just don't think this is it.