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#1 2005-10-17 9:14 pm

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Leopard and beyond

How far do you think OS X will go? My guess is that OS X Lion will be last, so they can say king of the jungle sort of thing... Obviously Leopard is next, but how many will be in between? In OS 9, what was the naming scheme like, and what was the last 9.X upgrade? I was just wondering you guy's opinion


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#2 2005-10-17 9:20 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

I remember someone from Apple saying that OS X is supposed to last until 2010, but in the tech world you never know. Something radical could change in the next couple of years, forcing apple to rethink their entire strategy.

The last version of 9 was 9.2 I believe. I have no clue what the naming scheme, if there was one, was.


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#3 2005-10-17 9:45 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

drfishy520 wrote:

I remember someone from Apple saying that OS X is supposed to last until 2010, but in the tech world you never know. Something radical could change in the next couple of years, forcing apple to rethink their entire strategy.

The last version of 9 was 9.2 I believe. I have no clue what the naming scheme, if there was one, was.

Since Apple has settled into a point release every @ 18 months they wont have any problem using the "X" till 2010.
Its not like the name puts any restrictions on incorporateing new tech as it comes along.


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#4 2005-10-17 10:27 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

But I want Mac OS Eleven!

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#5 2005-10-17 10:32 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

I am guessing 10.5 will be a Mactel/PPC hybrid release and then the next will probably be OS 11 for Mactel only.


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#6 2005-10-17 10:32 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

wpholmes wrote:

How far do you think OS X will go? My guess is that OS X Lion will be last, so they can say king of the jungle sort of thing... Obviously Leopard is next, but how many will be in between? In OS 9, what was the naming scheme like, and what was the last 9.X upgrade? I was just wondering you guy's opinion

Last OS 9 was 9.2.2.

Mac OS 8.0: Tempo
Mac OS 8.1: Bride of Buster (System 7.5.3 being Buster)
Mac OS 8.5: Allegro
Mac OS 8.6: Veronica
Mac OS 9.0: Sonata

I'm not aware of any codenames used for 9.x updates


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#7 2005-10-17 10:54 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

drfishy520 wrote:

I remember someone from Apple saying that OS X is supposed to last until 2010, but in the tech world you never know. Something radical could change in the next couple of years, forcing apple to rethink their entire strategy.

The last version of 9 was 9.2 I believe. I have no clue what the naming scheme, if there was one, was.

We're already half the way there.  Wow.


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#8 2005-10-17 11:07 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

OS 9 had no naming scheme (outside of development), just version numbers.  Back in those days the last minor revision usually stopped at x.6.  7.6 was the last revision of System 7 (also when they started referring to it as "Mac OS" rather than "System Software"), 8.6 was the last of OS 8, and still one of the best releases of the Mac OS ever.  In-between revs went,  x.0, x.0.x, x.1, x.5, x.5.x, ending with x.6.  There was a good structure to it.  Why they didn't make OS 9.2 OS 9.5 or 9.6 is probably so they could keep it somewhat distanced from 10 since it is a whole different ball of wax...
A x.6 release was what a 10.x.8 or 10.x.9 release is today.

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#9 2005-10-17 11:12 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

OS 9 was only so named because they'd like a number between OS 8 and OS 10. It was gonna be called 8.7 originally


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#10 2005-10-17 11:15 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

I'm pretty sure OS 9.x releases had names like Starlight or Moonshine. Astronomical names. OS 9.3 was to be Starlight, IIRC, and 9.1 & 2 had similar codenames.

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#11 2005-10-18 11:58 am

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Re: Leopard and beyond

"ten" is what i believe will be the last of a number designation. eleven sounds awkward.   We are being conditioned to names insead of codes. It sounds friendlier.

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#12 2005-10-18 1:04 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

I prefer numbers, they are more precise.
Names are vague.


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#13 2005-10-18 2:16 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

Pariah wrote:

I prefer numbers, they are more precise.
Names are vague.

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#14 2005-10-18 2:39 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

Pariah wrote:

I prefer numbers, they are more precise.
Names are vague.

Just call me "011010010100001001110101011000100110001001100001" from this point on, then. wink


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#15 2005-10-18 5:10 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

I agree that Lion will be the last. Seems like a good final name.

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#16 2005-10-18 5:29 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

I also prefer the number system. It lets me know exactly where I am in the OS heirarchy,...


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#17 2005-10-19 6:48 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

right or wrong, it seems that names are the way things are going. we may see small footnotes indicating release dates.

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#18 2005-10-19 6:51 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

Thunderstruck wrote:

OS 9 was only so named because they'd like a number between OS 8 and OS 10. It was gonna be called 8.7 originally

Yeah, 9 was by no stretch of the imagination worth a whole number.


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#19 2005-10-19 7:49 pm

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Re: Leopard and beyond

Tallgeese wrote:

Thunderstruck wrote:

OS 9 was only so named because they'd like a number between OS 8 and OS 10. It was gonna be called 8.7 originally

Yeah, 9 was by no stretch of the imagination worth a whole number.

That's probably true.  I joined the Mac world (or MAC, as idiots call it) with 9.1.  I loved that OS.  OS X just blew me out of the water. 

I like the idea of having words for the non-geek world with the actual version number in a help menu, (i.e. 11.1.2 Rev. A30B).  I'm already having trouble keeping up with animal names for OS X but I know what the numbers did to the feature set.  That said, most people could care less what the old OS did.  Animals or condom brands or whatever are probably fine for the average Joe - just not for me as a Power User and Mac-faithful.

Just imagine: Mac OS XI Trojan - Protecting Your Data From Viral Insertions!  big_smile


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#20 2007-01-12 12:14 am

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Re: Leopard and beyond

I don't think Apple will ditch X for a long, long time.  And I prefer to say "EX" instead of "Ten", due to it's NeXT and UNiX origins.

In fact, I bet they keep it until our current idea of what an OS is has been replaced (by Apple of course), or nuclear holocaust happens.

We're about to see some immense UI changes with Leopard... (think iPhone)

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#21 2007-01-12 12:27 am

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Re: Leopard and beyond

OS X will be around for a while, and am expecting the successor beyond X to use the same technologies. The core libraries are just too good to throw way. I would be expecting the windowing system to progress to more of a 3D engine sometime in the future, probably some time after the release of core 3D. (Note I didn't say 3D interface)


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#22 2007-01-12 12:27 am

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Re: Leopard and beyond

You know they can make OS X version 10.32098983247298 if they wanted to. It isn't a decimal.

But yeah, they said something about wanting to use the core of OS X for a decade or two.


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#23 2007-01-12 1:13 am

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Heck, if they could, they would've used OS 8 for a few decades!
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#24 2007-01-12 3:07 am

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