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Last edited by avkills (2005-10-23 10:32 pm)

I use FCP for projects at work. Before that I used Media100. I work at an A/V staging company, so I am not really doing anything super high-end.  Most of my work is either pre-production graphics for shows or post editing of shows. I am basically a one man shop. I pretty much do everything.

It just depends on what area of editing you want to get into to. What type of projects to you want to edit? I like my job because I usually have 100% creative freedom. I pretty much get handed logos and told make something cool.

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Last edited by avkills (2005-10-24 8:55 am)

I can't say that I would recommend a technical school if you're really serious. They're kind of like the junior colleges of the creative industry.

Getting a job in the creative industry requires a lot more then simply knowing how to operate your tools. Heck, I'd go as far to say that knowing how to use your tools is absolutely necessary, yet, it will be your least important asset.

If you're considering a career in cinema or animation, there's a lot of learn about visual communication, process, project management, communication, industry, networking, etc.  These are the assets that are going to allow you to migrate and ascend throughout your career. You'll always be learning technical stuff.  Software, hardware, and mediums are always changing.

I'd recommend checking out a university, but keep doing what you're doing. Keep asking around. Visit a some technical schools,  universities,  art academies, user groups etc.

Also consider the film program at North Carolina School of the Arts.   www.ncarts.edu   We use Final Cut, Avid, ProTools, etc.   We do learn a bit of film editing, but they're considering phasing it out since nobody is really cutting film anymore save for 2 people in the industry.   All alumni report back that they've never needed their knowledge of actual film cutting, it's all NLE systems out there.

Everyone here always amaze me.  Every time I need help. This is the place that always helps me…

Ok see yes (emotionDV) I was thinking on the line of a private lessons from an instructor. But I wanted to meet more people so I could network or brain storm with others. And brain storming with only two people, only goes so far. So that why I was thinking about a bigger school.

(AAPL Shareholder) I see what you mean and it makes allot of sense. With these key focuses, visual communication, process, networking. That something I need more practice, and by going to a good school with good teacher and resources, I can get all this. I wish I had never moved from Calf, but that the past. But I always been around movie stuff, But until I got my mac, that when it hit me how big this really was. I used to use programs on pc, and it didn’t feel like movie making stuff, but I was into networking. But when I got my mac, that when my love start and I want to start see what I could do to get in deeper. I find my self watching movie, not to watch, but how they shoot it, slow pull in scene. It like im analyzing the movie. What quality, it crazy but fun.  And again thank you for the input.

(shaman04) Right now I want to get into anything that will get me hand on. I just can say I want to do one thing, but of course to work on a film, I think that every goal. But ya, those school in (OC) Ca, I used to live in there, but at that time, had no clue I would turn , I was like Im going to do network all my life and look where I am now, and never thought I would own a mac. And use it more then my pc. How time have changed.

(mercury52) I’m new when you say cutting you mean by cutting by hand film reels or editing cutting?

(katiePOW) Well in finding a job, is it hard where you are, I tho9ught Avid was the top of all editing software and the hardest, I trying to practice with FCS, but it just practice, and reading and, find stuff by hitting the wrong button and Im like o that nice, but how did I do that. That happening allot, But it fun.

I live in Dallas, Tx and IV been looking at allot of school. I just need to find one that really good. And apply everything you all have said to me. Thank you again, and you have any other info to add or web site or books I can by until I find that school and able to pay for it, I would be grateful. Cya

I dont want to get off focus, but i know Apple with there mac mini, has upgrade there mini. Ok i getting one for mom mom for xmas, first mac. All she does is use allot of Personal Organizers,email,web,music, and dvd watching-a little. But it main for taking notes, and she writes short stores. Ok I see that 1.2 is nice, but deal with ram and video card. it only say 32 megs for video card. Is that slow. I mean if she will be fine with 32 and 64 not a big deal on what she does. I will just get a  Refurbished one, and she can get a ibook later if she like it.  OK, I thought i add this, instead of making a new post thanks for all the help again.....
(I did my homeowrk. im just going to get refurbished one. and if she like it, like i love mine she will get a mac mini.) add anything to this if you like thou.

Last edited by CplusE (2005-10-27 11:25 pm)

Typically cutting is used to refer to editing in general.  In my post, I used it to refer to actual film that you can hold.  The school currently teaches some work with actual film, but the focus on it is minimal.   More than 90% of what we do is digital.   Feel free to PM or e-mail if you have more questions about the school's post-production facilities.

My school was all hands on from the get go.  Looking back the work that stundents did the first two years in all the intro classes was pretty basic, but you did have the creative freedom to do whatever you wanted in them so long as you met the criteria for each project.  I think they did do a good job of getting you working with the eqipment off the bat.  And they still make everyone start with deck to deck edditing, which is how i think it should be.   (One of the people interrviewing me a while back was impressed thatI knew how to edit linerly)

Hello again everyone,

Sorry i been trying to read my butt off, ever sence i started this adventure, there's so much to learn. Thank you all for the info keep it comming.

(katiePOW ) Ya just for the fun of it. I looked into jobs for the field I want to get into. It seem like most are in my home state of CA, but i have not lived there in 2 years. But it's funny I had everything around me but i was not looking in that field. I was to into network. But i see with hard work, we both will find what we are looking for. Do most school still have Deck editing , or sence everythig all digital it's hard to find?


(Mercury52 ) When your editing films, what do you see in the diference in the two programs ( Final Cut, Avid) , I know people say Avid is King, but is it the learning curve. They both do HD now right? I just asking sence you have hand on and work with others to get there input. And I see in the last note you said you used Pro Tool, hows that work compared to the sound program that comes with Final Cut Studio-Soundtrack Pro .

(sevoneone) thank you for your input. You hit allot of thing on the nail.
I live now in Dallas Tx, there not to many film programs to choose from. I could go to a 4 year ,but  $ not that wide open. I did find a school that my be in my range. And Im looking into how the classes work. It look ok,  but sence I'm new, cant tell whats good and whats bad. Im so excited that all school that has a film programs look  good to me. But i know i have to watch out. Here the web site.
http://www.aid.artinstitutes.edu/progra … mp;dtid=10
But im still looking. (You seem to like editing;) you are right. So I'm looking in more this direction. But I feel I need to keep other doors open to , to build in this area of film.  I feel in time what I learn will be more book learning and hand on will come from me being at home, useing what I learned. Until i can just into a work invirerment. Just like you said, might find a production house,or Tv station, and just get in and get a feel for things, but i want a little more school, dont want to walk in there with my hands in my pocket like a lost kid. I want to be ready to work, and learn while im working. And again thank you for all the info. You have hit some key note, that have made my choice a little easier. Everyone has. Until I start school, what are some good books to read. I was at the book store, and i saw allot of books on Final Cut ,and Avid, but i was not sure which one for me being on level one. I dont even have a video camera. I practice, editing on movies already made. So if you have any names or advice please provide, so maybe i can be a little ahead once i do start classes.

(Aqua OS X ) No i dont have a degree. I  started working on computer like everyone, learning at home, then going to school, but got lucky, and my skill and me knowing people kept me in the game. But I see i still need schooling, to make sure my future stay on track, and with me wanting to make a bigger jump in the computer\film area. I need more schooling. I want to even take more english , well i have trouble talking in front of allot of people, I guess it because im always in a room with computers. but ya i need to get back in the groove.

Thanks again for everyone help. I had a lighting storm couple days ago, but i unplug all my computer, next mourning, i hit my apple power, nothing, no fan nothing, just power light comes on for 1 sec, then goes out. Anyone, i think i need a new power supply. But im having going crazy not being able to practice, but thanks again, and remember keep the networking alive.

Nm, there was a button on the mother board, i presses poof it works. Like button next to the battery. Maybe it a flip switch im just glad it works....

Last edited by CplusE (2005-11-02 6:50 pm)

CplusE wrote:

(katiePOW ) Ya just for the fun of it. I looked into jobs for the field I want to get into. It seem like most are in my home state of CA, but i have not lived there in 2 years. But it's funny I had everything around me but i was not looking in that field. I was to into network. But i see with hard work, we both will find what we are looking for. Do most school still have Deck editing , or sence everythig all digital it's hard to find?

Our school still does deck to deck, and just because it's deck to deck doesn't mean that it isn't digital video   But like I said I went in for an interview and the person I was interviewing with was impressed I could edit deck to deck.   It seems that tv stations out there are a mix of deck to deck and linier editing.

katiePOW wrote:

CplusE wrote:

(katiePOW ) Ya just for the fun of it. I looked into jobs for the field I want to get into. It seem like most are in my home state of CA, but i have not lived there in 2 years. But it's funny I had everything around me but i was not looking in that field. I was to into network. But i see with hard work, we both will find what we are looking for. Do most school still have Deck editing , or sence everythig all digital it's hard to find?

Our school still does deck to deck, and just because it's deck to deck doesn't mean that it isn't digital video   But like I said I went in for an interview and the person I was interviewing with was impressed I could edit deck to deck.   It seems that tv stations out there are a mix of deck to deck and linier editing.

My school never taught deck to deck editing.  I did it for the first time after I started my current job.  I love it, it is simple, and straight forward, sometimes you just don't need a fancy NLE.

i made a post about this, so thought i add this too

k this  was the last place I could think of before, i buy mics and do it myself.

But In the past couple of days I watched every casino movie there is. And I can not find a long deep dice rolling sound. I cant find sound clips. Well i did but they sound like dice hit tile. Im looking for the slow deep dice roll on like on the crap tables.

For exp: You hear the shake of the dice in real time. But the roll is slow and deep when it hit the carpet of the crap table, and the sound of how they hit on the back wall. Maybe  im not thinking clearly, but i have this idea but i need that dice roll sound. Well if this makes any sence ,please help . Thanks again..

macs just makes you so creative....In way I never dreamed of.....