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Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:

Aspyr just announced "Civ III : Complete" which is basically Civ III + Play The World.

Reckon that they'll release PTW by itself?
Reckon that they'll fix Civ III itself? Reckon that they'll make that fix available to people unless they buy 'Complete'?

Civ3 Complete is Civ3 + Play the World + the 2nd expansion, Conquests - so the original plus 2 expansions.

Not sure what's "broken" about Civ3, but it's worth pointing out that MacSoft published Civ3 originally. As fate would have it, we can't use the original Mac code, so we're re-porting it from scratch. This means that whatever was "broken" may be fixed - hard to say without more details.

Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:

:thumbs-up:
But there won't be an expansion-only release, right? Like with GOTY?

Currently we only plan to release the complete package. 

Glenda
Aspyr Media

Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:

:thumbs-up:
Thanks for all the betas you made (on your own time, if I remember correctly) but they were still buggy in parts (esp. scenarios) as I would expect from betas. Of course, I could be wrong but the latest version I ever found was 1.29b2 [problems with shortcuts under non-standard keyboard layouts, minor patching required to achieve non-standard resolutions etc.].

The "Aspyr" Civ3 will support non-standard resolutions out of the box. If you know of shortcut bugs in the MacSoft release, let us know and I'll gladly double-check them against the Aspyr build. Likewise, if you know of a scenario that had problems with the MacSoft release, let us know.

Brad Oliver wrote:

The "Aspyr" Civ3 will support non-standard resolutions out of the box.

Good, and most 'MacSoft' releases supported 1440x900, but the betas required a 3rd party utility to use it.

If you know of shortcut bugs in the MacSoft release, let us know and I'll gladly double-check them against the Aspyr build.

Again, only the betas you released to give us some scenario support and bring the game up-to-date with the PC version: using a non-standard keyboard layout meant the game failed to notice key combinations sometimes.

Likewise, if you know of a scenario that had problems with the MacSoft release, let us know.

I'll see if I can find the one I remember. I pretty much gave up on scenarios (Civ III itself had horrific support for scenarios pre-Conquests and load-times for me [1GHz G4, 512MB RAM, 4200RPM HD] were crazy).

Thanks for the [apparent] interest!

Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:

Good, and most 'MacSoft' releases supported 1440x900, but the betas required a 3rd party utility to use it.

What? I followed most of the reports on the betas, and I don't recall hearing about a third-party utility to use the non-standard resolutions. Can you provide a link?

Again, only the betas you released to give us some scenario support and bring the game up-to-date with the PC version: using a non-standard keyboard layout meant the game failed to notice key combinations sometimes.

If you can give a specific example, I'll double-check it ASAP.

Anyone know if this is going to be limited to mac-mac multiplayer only?

Thanks.

r6rome wrote:

PLEASEEEEEEE make sure we can run it on a iMac G5.

An iMac G5? That outdated piece of junk? Seriously, if it doesn't run on an iMac G5, then I might as well quit now.

Seriously, I just want to say how thankful I am that people like Brad and Glenda visit our forums from time to time.  I'm not the biggest game tech expert, but as just your typical gamer, I really appreciate and respect that they can take the time to come around to MAF and answer questions about upcoming titles and previously-released titles (like Brad correcting some misconceptions about Halo a while back).

Thanks guys, and keep up the great work!

Seriously, Civ 4 better not have a Dantooine map...

Brad Oliver wrote:

NAG wrote:

Anyone know if this is going to be limited to mac-mac multiplayer only?

Civ3 is Mac-to-Mac only, Civ4 probably will allow PC-to-Mac (ask again in a few months for confirmation).

Well now that I kinda know who you work for (took me long enough! ), I have a somewhat general question about DirectX. I gather that this MS proprietary code is the main reason that many games are now difficult to port to the Mac platform and is the principle reason preventing multiplayer games to be cross-platform (Civ III being a prime example; lack of good cross-platform MP is the main reason I never looked at Civ III). Noting that the PC system requirements for Civ IV specify “DirectX 9.0c”, a video card with DirectX8 support and DirectX7 compatible sound card, how can a Mac developer approach writing compatible code? I gather there is no Mac compatible version of DirectX, so I assume that you have to use something completely different, yet still allow them to talk to each other. Can you explain what a possible approach might be? How was MP supported in Civ II MPG? For me, the best thing about Civ II MPG was the ability to literally play with people all across the globe and also use the King’s Chat window to chat between moves; when I was actively playing Civ II, I played with a group of Australians and some guys in Europe on a weekly basis! I’d love to see this functionality in the upcoming Civ IV. I know that’s a big question and you may not be able to explain it in this setting. Thanks for posting in the Mac Addict Forums and keeping us abreast on gaming developments!!

Bat wrote:

Seriously, Civ 4 better not have a Dantooine map...

Are you calling the Dantooine people uncivilized? Dare I say, rebel scum?