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oatmeal wrote:

Duke?  I've barely said two words to him lately, and definitely not in a modding capacity.

Yeah, I haven't even been warned for half a year at least.

Oatie the sniping and fighting is getting ridiculous.  Right now, Schnick, bedstuy, bratboy, and more or less are getting topics closed at an unusual rate (even for MiniThink).  It really is getting out of hand.

For those who say it's all more or less' fault, it STILL takes at least two people to fight.  One fires the first shot and the other one shoots back.  In other words, YOU ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS.

They've been warned how many times now?  And nothing has changed?  I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job here, but isn't it time for more extreme measures?

*edit* Oats, I do want to apologize.  While I'm not deleting the post (because it does have to do with the rules and enforecement thereof), I think this one would have been better handled as a PM

Last edited by MysticCow (2005-11-11 10:22 pm)

MysticCow wrote:

Oatie the sniping and fighting is getting ridiculous.  Right now, Schnick, bedstuy, bratboy, and more or less are getting topics closed at an unusual rate (even for MiniThink).  It really is getting out of hand.

For those who say it's all more or less' fault, it STILL takes at least two people to fight.  One fires the first shot and the other one shoots back.  In other words, YOU ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS.

They've been warned how many times now?  And nothing has changed?  I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job here, but isn't it time for more extreme measures?

*edit* Oats, I do want to apologize.  While I'm not deleting the post (because it does have to do with the rules and enforecement theref), I think this one would have been better handled as a PM

How can you blame people for responding to jerky posts, but not the jerk who starts it? Makes no sense to me.

Things were way more civilized before the mole came around. Keep that in mind before you start casting blame about.

yeah, post #51 in this very thread reeks of innocence

bedstuy wrote:

yeah, post #51 in this very thread reeks of innocence

Sweet jaysus, that's putting it kindly.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

I in fact did report him, and have been pleading to have him banned for some time. With little to no success, I might add (alas).

As for my choice to respond to him, well, I don't see how I can be blamed for that. The purpose of this forum is to engage in dialog. And let's face it, if someone insults you, questions your intelligence and dogs you at every turn, you'll respond. How can you not? This is the real world we're talking about, not fantastyland.

Actually, you're little more than electromagnetic radiation on my computer screen, as is bedstuy, bratboy, and more or less.  Personally, I don't know if you're flesh and blood or if you're some incredibly sophisticated device posting on here.  Personally, I don't care and I don't see why people are getting mad and attacking each other ON AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD.  You're arguing on the internet, which is like running in the Special Olympics.

I'm not excusing any of you in this.  YOU ALL PERSONALLY CHOSE TO ATTACK.  While more or less started it (this is via second and third hand sources as I have not investigated every single post) and needs to shoulder more of the blame, you are all still responsible for your own actions.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

I in fact did report him, and have been pleading to have him banned for some time. With little to no success, I might add (alas).

ahhhh, so the water in the well is poisoned after all.  it explains what you are doing, using my threads as excuses to bait me to support your little campaign to get me banned.

this makes you, in fact, the problem, as the behavior was a little odd even for you.  thanks for exposing yourself.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

As for my choice to respond to him, well, I don't see how I can be blamed for that. The purpose of this forum is to engage in dialog. And let's face it, if someone insults you, questions your intelligence and dogs you at every turn, you'll respond. How can you not? This is the real world we're talking about, not fantastyland.

really, do you get people banned inthe real world too? 

the enitre forum of my posts is at your disposal, i challlenge you to show me where i have insulted you?

ShnickyShnack wrote:

As to "the XYZ debacle," I don't know what that refers to. If you look carefully, you'll find that I make it a rule never to participate in any of his threads. They only wind up one way, and it's no fun. But at least they're contained, you know? It doesn't spill over into every single goddamned thing anyone says.

"every single thing anone goddamn says. blah blah blah."   do you even hear yourself?


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you dont want a discussion forum, you want to have your ego stroked.  i pity you, i really do.  you have been behaving with disingenuine behavior towards me, with intention, and it's obvious.

your mission has failed, quit being so petty and i will magically be the same old more or less i always have been.

testy, terse, and smarter than you.

:lol:

Last edited by more or less (2005-11-11 11:09 pm)

ShnickyShnack wrote:

MysticCow wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

I in fact did report him, and have been pleading to have him banned for some time. With little to no success, I might add (alas).

As for my choice to respond to him, well, I don't see how I can be blamed for that. The purpose of this forum is to engage in dialog. And let's face it, if someone insults you, questions your intelligence and dogs you at every turn, you'll respond. How can you not? This is the real world we're talking about, not fantastyland.

Actually, you're little more than electromagnetic radiation on my computer screen, as is bedstuy, bratboy, and more or less.  Personally, I don't know if you're flesh and blood or if you're some incredibly sophisticated device posting on here.  Personally, I don't care and I don't see why people are getting mad and attacking each other ON AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD.  You're arguing on the internet, which is like running in the Special Olympics.

I'm not excusing any of you in this.  YOU ALL PERSONALLY CHOSE TO ATTACK.  While more or less started it (this is via second and third hand sources as I have not investigated every single post) and needs to shoulder more of the blame, you are all still responsible for your own actions.

Well, I'm operating from the assumption that everyone here is real.

We all agree that the mole started this nonsense. It's completely, blitheringly obvious, despite his protests of innocence.

And since he started it, he gets the blame. It's that simple.

Me, Beds, bratty and whoever else he was attacking ... if we go, does the place stabilize? Hell no.

If the mole goes and we stay, does it return to peace? Hell yes, obviously.

The situation is clear, and I don't know why you can't see that. Maybe he needs to have attacked you a bit in order to figure things out.

oh, so now i am attacking you?

would you like a nice gouda with your whine?  i would say this is beneath you, but as you have announced your campaign to ban me, its just sad really.

minithink was quite calm after you blew up and took your ball to ch54 last time.  actually, i never really "leave" this place.  i just dont get worked up enough to post all of the time.  plus, i tend to agree with things that are already said.

it seems being worked up is quite normal for you.  get over it. PLEASE.

like NOW.

Last edited by more or less (2005-11-11 10:53 pm)

ShnickyShnack wrote:

We all agree that the mole started this nonsense. It's completely, blitheringly obvious, despite his protests of innocence.

And since he started it, he gets the blame. It's that simple.

He gets a lot of the blame.  The ones who attacked back get a part of the blame too.  Again, it takes two people to fight.  You can try and weasel your way out of it as much as you want, but you're still guilty of personally attacking another poster on the forums.

Me, Beds, bratty and whoever else he was attacking ... if we go, does the place stabilize? Hell no.

If the mole goes and we stay, does it return to peace? Hell yes, obviously.

If you all go away, then we're 100% certain of stabilization, so I'd shut up now.  You're also guilty of sniping at other posters, or do you not remember the part of the post about me that Oatie CENSORED?

The situation is clear, and I don't know why you can't see that. Maybe he needs to have attacked you a bit in order to figure things out.

OK, here is the situation.  More or less attacked.  You, bedstuy, and bratboy attacked back.  You're all attacking and all violating DBaJ.  If the attacks happened to me, I'd report it and go on normally, like I've done before (and with one of your posts in particular that Oatie had to CENSOR).  I've grown up and realized that it is perfectly useless to personally attack people on an internet message board.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

As to "the XYZ debacle," I don't know what that refers to. If you look carefully, you'll find that I make it a rule never to participate in any of his threads. They only wind up one way, and it's no fun. But at least they're contained, you know? It doesn't spill over into every single goddamned thing anyone says.

My response to the XYZ debacle.  Work your way back to find the beginning.

bedstuy wrote:

hi... my name is Leo

is that the best you can do?

gee,

maybe i should get a plaque made that says

more or less, evil-doer of the world of minithink

frankly, this is more interesting to me than most of your threads.  the facts are on full display, and i encourage you guys to make a lucid case or quit with the assisination campaign.

its evident you are acting on ill-will, and don't think for a second i am the only one who thinks so.

BRING IT ON! 

ShnickyShnack wrote:

MysticCow wrote:

He gets a lot of the blame.  The ones who attacked back get a part of the blame too.  Again, it takes two people to fight.  You can try and weasel your way out of it as much as you want, but you're still guilty of personally attacking another poster on the forums.

No I'm not. I'm guilty of responding to a troll. That's not a wonderful thing, perhaps, but it's sure as hell a lot less blameworthy than being a troll, woudldn'y you agree?

What have I been saying all this time?  More or less gets more of the blame.  You're still getting some of the blame.  So why are you fighting with me over something we both agree with, unless you're trying to make yourself come off smelling springtime fresh?

If you all go away, then we're 100% certain of stabilization, so I'd shut up now.  You're also guilty of sniping at other posters, or do you not remember the part of the post about me that Oatie CENSORED?

I snap at people, you snap at people, we all cross the line from time to time. But as a rule? In every post? Nonstop? Nope.

Sounds to me like you're quite pissed off, and making this a personal issue. Indeed, you seem to be ARGUING WITH SOMEONE ON AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD.

Actually, I'm laughing about this and having a discussion with someone about what they did, which was argue on an internet message board.  Caps were meant for effect as opposed to shouting and I should have made myself more clear.  Sorry for the confusion.

Then why argue about it? Why do you even care? Shouldn't you just be ignoring both sides in this? Isn't that the "grown up" thing to do? Why are you even complaining?

I'm complaining because no topic can be discussed without you four coming in and mucking everything up, forcing a topic closure.  There's no way TO ignore it when it is at this level of pervasiveness.  At this point, I don't care who the hell started it or why it was started and why people are attacking each other on this board.  It's gotten way out of hand and IMHO, everyone involved needs a time out.