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Thunderstruck wrote:

Tim Cook would be CEO

And then they would hire me - and I'd turn the company around by releasing all of their software under the GPL license, give a free pro tower to anyone who finds a bug no matter how small, and buy Adobe (for the purpose of open sourcing the software)

We'd have marketshare galore - and a lot of bugs squashed.

Am I a genious or what?

Oh - and I'd buy Pixar and start making virtual porn - Woody with a Woody.
That's where the profit would come from.

Imagine market shares were like 90% Mac - 10% Windows... Would our applications be as big a mess as they are on Windows right now?

I mean, if someone comes out with a bloated application with a complete lack of consistency, most Mac-users would refuse to use it. I even throw away apps that don't have the command-comma keyboard shortcut for preferences... "if you know how to use 1 application, you know how to use pretty much every other application". Not so on Windows....

that would then assume that people would have a huge shift to being adverse to using bloated inconsistant programs. that is not the case with 90% of computer users

resedit wrote:

Oh - and I'd buy Pixar and start making virtual porn - Woody with a Woody.
That's where the profit would come from.

Isn't porn addictive and a destroyer families?  Why would you do that?

Last edited by danielb0101 (2005-11-21 7:57 pm)

My PC using boss thinks keyboard commands are quiant, old fashioned, and DOS-ish. He prefers right clicking for a drop down, even though it - copy/paste for instance - occaisionally doesn't work, whereas Control c/v works every time. I find the Control key location a bit clumsier than the Command key, though.

He asked me how I was enjoying my new eyeMac (just got it Fri afternoon) today, and I was so pleased to say that I had 2 computers that I could connect with FireWire and use the setup assistant to move everything over in a matter of minutes. No software installs, no re-inputting serial numbers, no rearranging so stuff is back to the way I'm used to...

He was amazed. I told him that before I had to use Target Disk mode before because my B&W was too old to use the assistant when I got my TiBook. Then I had to explain Target disk mode - again, he was amazed - thought that might be a handy way to move stuff without messing with networks. Well, I know networking is a breeze with Macs, and the same can't be said for Windows.

His wife got a new Toshiba laptop a few months ago, and it took a week before she had everything switched over, and a month more before she felt comfortable without having her old laptop right there for a backup. It took him a weekend to figure out how to get her wireless printer to work with her Toshiba last month. I mean it when I say that I wish everyone had the computing experience we have.

But try to convince them they would be happier with Mac, and you get the hairy eyeball.

Last edited by mtpalms (2005-11-21 8:38 pm)

mtpalms wrote:

My PC using boss thinks keyboard commands are quiant, old fashioned, and DOS-ish. He prefers right clicking for a drop down, even though it - copy/paste for instance - occaisionally doesn't work, whereas Control c/v works every time. I find the Control key location a bit clumsier than the Command key, though.

My laptop doesn't have a command key.
IBM Thinkpad.

Bootom row:
Fn Ctrl Alt Spacebar Alt Ctrl

Command/Windows key are not standard. It is improper to assume they will be there, except on Mac OS. So Linux apps should not have any keybindings that use the flower/windows key - except as set by the user.

Ctrl and Alt are fine.

lieven wrote:

resedit wrote:

In Evolution (gnome/gtk2+ e-mail client) - Ctrl-L is "reply to group"
In Pan (gtk2+ newsreader) - I find myself constantly hitting Ctrl-L.
Sooner or later I'm going to sit down and patch pan to have same keybindings as evolution for that sort of stuff.

Oh, and I thought Gnome was getting more consistent than Mac OS X these days..

Who claimed that?
But anyway - a little lesson is in order.

Pan hasn't had a proper update in eons, and is not part of the gnome project.
I maintain the pan package for Fedora:

[mpeters@laptop devel]$ grep "BuildRequires" pan.spec
BuildRequires: libxml2-devel >= 2.4.22
BuildRequires: gnet2-devel >= 2.0.4
BuildRequires: desktop-file-utils
BuildRequires: pcre-devel >= 4.0
BuildRequires: gtkspell-devel >= 2.0.2
BuildRequires: gettext
- added gettext BuildRequires
- remove redundant BuildRequires, remove explicit library requires
[mpeters@laptop devel]$

compare that with

[mpeters@laptop devel]$ grep "BuildRequires" gnomesword.spec
BuildRequires:  sed >= 3.95
BuildRequires:  sword-devel >= 1.5.8
BuildRequires:  gettext
BuildRequires:  desktop-file-utils
BuildRequires:  gnome-spell
BuildRequires:  gtkhtml3-devel
BuildRequires:  curl-devel
BuildRequires:  libgnomeui-devel
BuildRequires:  scrollkeeper
BuildRequires:  libtool automake autoconf
[mpeters@laptop devel]$

Notice that pan does not build against any gnome libraries. Gnomesword, which is a gnome app, does.

Pan is not a gnome application.
It's a gtk2+ app - but not all gtk2+ apps are GNOME apps.
gtk2+ is the toolkit that gnome libraries use, but gtk2+ != gnome

So a consistency issue with pan doesn't reflect upon gnome (which is fairly consistent in many things)