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#1 2005-11-22 6:44 pm

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Question about a plural

With the release of the Xbox 360, I thought it would be appropriate to determine whether the plural would be Xbox 360s, or Xboxes 360.

Give me your input.


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#2 2005-11-22 6:46 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

Xbox 360s


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#3 2005-11-22 7:03 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

:points to the Games room:


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#4 2005-11-22 7:07 pm

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Damn you.  Damn you for making me think about this.  It would never have occurred to me. http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/explode.gif

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Xboxes 360 is more correct.  Xbox 360s will be common use, you just know it.

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#5 2005-11-22 7:45 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

oatmeal wrote:

Damn you.  Damn you for making me think about this.  It would never have occurred to me. http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/explode.gif

( wink )

Xboxes 360 is more correct.  Xbox 360s will be common use, you just know it.

No. If you have several copies of Tekken 4 you don't have Tekkens 4. If you have a Weedwhacker 48, plural becomes Weedwhacker 48s not Weedwhackers 48.


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#6 2005-11-22 7:47 pm

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Greywolf wrote:

oatmeal wrote:

Damn you.  Damn you for making me think about this.  It would never have occurred to me. http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/explode.gif

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Xboxes 360 is more correct.  Xbox 360s will be common use, you just know it.

No. If you have several copies of Tekken 4 you don't have Tekkens 4. If you have a Weedwhacker 48, plural becomes Weedwhacker 48s not Weedwhackers 48.

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#7 2005-11-22 8:34 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

360 is part of the name.

You wouldn't call them "colors pencil" or "PowerBooks G4," would you?


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#8 2005-11-22 8:37 pm

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Macskeeball wrote:

360 is part of the name.

You wouldn't call them "colors pencil" or "PowerBooks G4," would you?

French, Spanish, Romanian.  All at once. So English goes pppbbllth. shrug

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#9 2005-11-22 10:38 pm

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ha ! take that smart man !


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#10 2005-11-22 10:50 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

Macskeeball wrote:

360 is part of the name.

You wouldn't call them "colors pencil" or "PowerBooks G4," would you?

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#11 2005-11-22 11:04 pm

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benightedbastard wrote:

Macskeeball wrote:

360 is part of the name.

You wouldn't call them "colors pencil" or "PowerBooks G4," would you?

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So maybe I was right.  Darn you people, making me doubt myself!  smile

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#12 2005-11-22 11:07 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

benightedbastard wrote:

Macskeeball wrote:

360 is part of the name.

You wouldn't call them "colors pencil" or "PowerBooks G4," would you?

Governors general
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But those are phrases, not names.


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#13 2005-11-22 11:09 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

benightedbastard wrote:

Macskeeball wrote:

360 is part of the name.

You wouldn't call them "colors pencil" or "PowerBooks G4," would you?

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Toyotas Camry?
iPods nano?
Holys Bible?
Canons PowerShot?
Goldens Graham?

Your examples are more general identifiers. "XBox 360" is collectively a proper noun. Simply compare "XBox 360" to another name of a very similar form. Would you say, "PowerMacs G5?"

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#14 2005-11-22 11:13 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

I was pointing out that there are other terms that do follow that convention, not saying it's correct in this instance. I don't really care what you call it.

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#15 2005-11-22 11:15 pm

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#16 2005-11-22 11:20 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

I think it has to do with which object is being added to.  For example, colored pencil, the pencil is being added upon, so we say, "Colored pencils."  But in Xbox 360, we are adding another Xbox, so we say, "Xboxes 360."  360 is an adjective in this instance, I think.

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#17 2005-11-22 11:22 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

iBubba wrote:

:points to the Games room:

Eh, they'll just go off topic or start talking about Nintendos or something.

That usually what takes place over there.


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#18 2005-11-22 11:25 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

fastman wrote:

I think it has to do with which object is being added to.  For example, colored pencil, the pencil is being added upon, so we say, "Colored pencils."  But in Xbox 360, we are adding another Xbox, so we say, "Xboxes 360."  360 is an adjective in this instance, I think.

God, I am a nerd.

With "Xbox 360," you're not adding another "Xbox." You're adding another "XBox 360." Again, would you say, "PowerMacs G5?"

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#19 2005-11-22 11:35 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

fastman wrote:

I think it has to do with which object is being added to.  For example, colored pencil, the pencil is being added upon, so we say, "Colored pencils."  But in Xbox 360, we are adding another Xbox, so we say, "Xboxes 360."  360 is an adjective in this instance, I think.

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Ya, but the full product names is "Xbox 360"

For example, let's pretend you have a lame generic name like Jim Smith. If you were standing next to someone else with the exact same name we'd refer to you two as "the Jims," "the Jim Smiths," or "the Smiths." 

But we'd never refer to the two of you as "the Jims Smith"

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#20 2005-11-22 11:56 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

I am more worried about Nintendo Revolutions.


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#21 2005-11-22 11:58 pm

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Re: Question about a plural

Moses wrote:

I am more worried about Nintendo Revolutions.

I guess this...

AAPL Shareholder wrote:

iBubba wrote:

:points to the Games room:

Eh, they'll just go off topic or start talking about Nintendos or something.

That usually what takes place over there.

...can happen here too lol


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#22 2005-11-23 12:03 am

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Re: Question about a plural

On purpose.

I guess I will have to live with PlayStations 2


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#23 2005-11-23 12:08 am

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Moses wrote:

I am more worried about Nintendo Revolutions.

(Continuing my winning streak...)

Nintendos Revolutionses.

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#24 2005-11-23 12:10 am

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No, that is already plural.  It is Revolution.  smurfed!


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#25 2005-11-23 12:15 am

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Re: Question about a plural

It's simple when you think about it. The "s" or what have you goes at the end of a given name when converting the singular into the plural. "Best" is not the name. "Best Buy" is the name. Put the "s" at the end of the name.


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