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#51 2006-03-23 7:34 pm

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Re: Universal languages

Connemara wrote:

Learning Latin definitely makes learning any other of the Romance languages easier, as the roots in those languages are based on Latin.

FYI: There is a 1965 movie called "The Incubus" starring William Shatner that was done entirely in Esperanto, even the credits.

I guess they forgot to make the title in Esperanto, eh? I don't know Latin but I hear that what you type is true and I believe it.

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#52 2006-03-26 5:39 am

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Re: Universal languages

sturner wrote:

Klingon is listed in the ISO codes of languages. Nice isn't it?

I read somewhere that there are more people in the world who can speak Klingon than can speak Esperanto. That's OK if you only want to speak to Trekkies, I suppose.

(There's even a Klingon Google page!)


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#53 2006-03-26 9:00 am

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Re: Universal languages

KeilwerthSX90 wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

KeilwerthSX90 wrote:

Aren't all languages artificial?

No, and I'm not sure why you'd say that.

Punnery.

Merriam-Webster wrote:

Main Entry: ar·ti·fi·cial
Pronunciation: "är-t&-'fi-sh&l
Function: adjective
1 : humanly contrived often on a natural model : MAN-MADE

Artificial can simply mean "made by humans", which all human languages are.

More punnery: natural languages are not creations, but social activities. There is no instance of invention with the system of a natural language, there is a gradual development by a community who implicitly agree to share certain semantic values. To stretch the meaning of "artificial" to include natural languages, would stretch it to the point that other phenomena, like emotions or logic, would also be considered artificial, not natural.


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#54 2006-03-26 10:32 am

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Re: Universal languages

Jeff-O is right.  I would quote him, but I am too lazy.


If you are going to learn an engineered language like Edo or Esperanto, I would want to ask you why?  The true international languages really are English.  Esperanto's usefulness rannks up there with Coptic and Aramaic.  A Romance language and/or Chinese are better languages to study to be able to communicate internationally.


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#55 2006-03-26 11:29 am

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Re: Universal languages

English is spoken all over the Universe.
Watch Stargate SG1 or Stargate Atlantis.

-=-

Seriously - wouldn't be of more value to, you know, speak a language that people speak - and not just some academic exercise designed to get grant money?


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#56 2006-03-26 12:26 pm

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Re: Universal languages

goodvibes wrote:

sturner wrote:

Klingon is listed in the ISO codes of languages. Nice isn't it?

I read somewhere that there are more people in the world who can speak Klingon than can speak Esperanto. That's OK if you only want to speak to Trekkies, I suppose.

(There's even a Klingon Google page!)

There's even a Klingon translation of the Bible. roll


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#57 2006-03-26 1:02 pm

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Re: Universal languages

Macskeeball wrote:

goodvibes wrote:

sturner wrote:

Klingon is listed in the ISO codes of languages. Nice isn't it?

I read somewhere that there are more people in the world who can speak Klingon than can speak Esperanto. That's OK if you only want to speak to Trekkies, I suppose.

(There's even a Klingon Google page!)

There's even a Klingon translation of the Bible. roll

It's already been translated so many times anyways, what's one more?


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#58 2006-03-27 4:00 am

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Re: Universal languages

Macskeeball wrote:

goodvibes wrote:

sturner wrote:

Klingon is listed in the ISO codes of languages. Nice isn't it?

I read somewhere that there are more people in the world who can speak Klingon than can speak Esperanto. That's OK if you only want to speak to Trekkies, I suppose.

(There's even a Klingon Google page!)

There's even a Klingon translation of the Bible. roll

Reminds me of a story by a missionary - when he finally learned their language enough to tell them the story of Jesus - they cheered at Judas - deception and trickery was held in high regard amongst that tribe.


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#59 2006-03-27 4:35 am

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Re: Universal languages

soulcrusher wrote:

Disagree. You do not need math to do science. Math is useful, but not necessary, for science.

Maybe for the level of science you can comprehend.

Sorry bud - but you've griped about math enough times that maybe you should pick a different field.


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#60 2006-03-27 10:23 am

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Re: Universal languages

Artificial languages show the rhyme and reason behind grammar, syntax, and structure. Although they don't deal with irregulars.

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