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#26 2006-01-06 12:21 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

I mean I'm all for freedom of speech and all but aren't there exceptions for say... yelling fire in a crowded theater or telling people to assassinate someone?


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#27 2006-01-06 12:53 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

ChronoTriggerXP wrote:

I mean I'm all for freedom of speech and all but aren't there exceptions for say... yelling fire in a crowded theater or telling people to assassinate someone?

Generally, the threat of lawlessness has to be significant and imminent.


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#28 2006-01-06 1:04 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

oh sure. but if it was someone saying the same thing about Bush on TV they'd probably be sent to cuba and never seen again.


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#29 2006-01-06 2:10 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

MuckSavage wrote:

Yeah - he judges others and stuff. What a total smurf.

Tell me that was sarcasm, and I'll go about my merry way.

That's exactly what it was.
Notice my statement was a judgemental statement complaining about him being judgemental.


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#30 2006-01-06 2:32 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

You'd think Pat would be a little more tactful considering the Israeli government is about to give up a large slice of land (evidently you can give God's land away to Christians, just not Muslims) for a biblical theme park by the Sea of Galilee to a consortium of Christian groups led by Robertson.

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#31 2006-01-06 2:35 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

Oh - Israel gets a lot of money Robertson viewers.
All the time I see requests for money - to provide for homeless Jews, move Jews into Israel, etc. on TBN.


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#32 2006-01-06 2:48 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

Interesting considering just 15 years ago he was accused of anti-Semitism in a book he wrote by the Anti-Defamation League.

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#33 2006-01-06 3:01 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

bedstuy wrote:

You'd think Pat would be a little more tactful considering the Israeli government is about to give up a large slice of land (evidently you can give God's land away to Christians, just not Muslims) for a biblical theme park by the Sea of Galilee to a consortium of Christian groups led by Robertson.

Please tell me you are smoking crack right now and posting crazy smurf just to make us all go eek. Please. I mean, what the smurf kind of Bizarro smurf is that?


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#34 2006-01-06 3:12 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

that stopped being "gods land" when jesus was baptized.


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#35 2006-01-06 3:17 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

bedstuy wrote:

You'd think Pat would be a little more tactful considering the Israeli government is about to give up a large slice of land (evidently you can give God's land away to Christians, just not Muslims) for a biblical theme park by the Sea of Galilee to a consortium of Christian groups led by Robertson.

Please tell me you are smoking crack right now and posting crazy smurf just to make us all go eek. Please. I mean, what the smurf kind of Bizarro smurf is that?

Yeah, next you'll try and tell us that they're going to build an icon to American culture and consumerism, a Disneyland for example, somewhere in communist China.  lol














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#36 2006-01-06 3:23 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

NoExit wrote:

that stopped being "gods land" when jesus was baptized.

Really?
I've never heard that theory before.
What is it based on?


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#37 2006-01-06 3:41 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

resedit wrote:

NoExit wrote:

that stopped being "gods land" when jesus was baptized.

Really?
I've never heard that theory before.
What is it based on?

im going to base it on the fact that the jews are no longer gods chosen people.


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#38 2006-01-06 5:36 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

ChronoTriggerXP wrote:

oh sure. but if it was someone saying the same thing about Bush on TV they'd probably be sent to cuba and never seen again.

At very least, it'll get you banned from Minithink.


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#39 2006-01-06 5:38 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

NoExit wrote:

resedit wrote:

NoExit wrote:

that stopped being "gods land" when jesus was baptized.

Really?
I've never heard that theory before.
What is it based on?

im going to base it on the fact that the jews are no longer gods chosen people.

Yes they are.
Read Paul - the Gentiles are grafted into the vine, the vine did not change.
Being chosen isn't enough - they still have to believe God, but that was always the case.


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#40 2006-01-06 5:38 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

ChronoTriggerXP wrote:

oh sure. but if it was someone saying the same thing about Bush on TV they'd probably be sent to cuba and never seen again.

It's a double standard. If Pat was a Frenchman who said Bush should be assassinated, he'd be called a terrorist.


there's really no need for all of this

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#41 2006-01-06 6:00 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

XYZ wrote:

ChronoTriggerXP wrote:

oh sure. but if it was someone saying the same thing about Bush on TV they'd probably be sent to cuba and never seen again.

It's a double standard. If Pat was a Frenchman who said Bush should be assassinated, he'd be called a terrorist.

That's a fair assesment.


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#42 2006-01-06 7:52 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

resedit wrote:

Oh - Israel gets a lot of money Robertson viewers.
All the time I see requests for money - to provide for homeless Jews, move Jews into Israel, etc. on TBN.

And that really creeps me out. I will never trust the motives of Pat Robertson when it comes to helping out jews. And thats because I know the only reason he does this is so that he can have all of us in the holy land for the apocoplapse, and he wants us then to convert or go to hell. The man doesn't really care about jews.


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#43 2006-01-06 10:04 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

resedit wrote:

MuckSavage wrote:

Yeah - he judges others and stuff. What a total smurf.

Tell me that was sarcasm, and I'll go about my merry way.

That's exactly what it was.
Notice my statement was a judgemental statement complaining about him being judgemental.

<goes about his merry way>


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#44 2006-01-06 11:58 am

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

bedstuy wrote:

You'd think Pat would be a little more tactful considering the Israeli government is about to give up a large slice of land (evidently you can give God's land away to Christians, just not Muslims) for a biblical theme park by the Sea of Galilee to a consortium of Christian groups led by Robertson.

Please tell me you are smoking crack right now and posting crazy smurf just to make us all go eek. Please. I mean, what the smurf kind of Bizarro smurf is that?

Nope!  It's true.

Plans for Holy Land theme park on Galilee shore where Jesus fed the 5,000

The Israeli government is planning to give up a large slice of land to American Christian evangelicals to build a biblical theme park by the Sea of Galilee where Jesus is said to have walked on water and fed 5,000 with five loaves and two fish.
A consortium of Christian groups, led by the television evangelist Pat Robertson, is in negotiation with the Israeli ministry of tourism and a deal is expected in the coming months. The project is expected to bring up to 1 million extra tourists a year but an undeclared benefit will be the cementing of a political alliance between the Israeli rightwing and the American Christian right.

However, the alliance has not been welcomed by all Israelis, including some who fear the ultimate aim of the evangelicals is the conversion of the Jews to Christianity rather than support for Israel.

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#45 2006-01-06 12:11 pm

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

bedstuy wrote:

Nope!  It's true.

I know. I checked last night and posted something about how the Book of Revelations must have left that out, but then my computer was updating itself so I had to restart....

Anyway, that's just stupid, sick and crazy, man. I guess it's great for the Israeli economy, but it's pretty blatant evidence that Pat Robertson is into Christianity for the money and not a damn thing else.

How in the hell are people in this day and age still gullible enough to believe a bunch of religious fairy-tale bullsmurf anyway?


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#46 2006-01-06 2:18 pm

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

resedit wrote:

NoExit wrote:

resedit wrote:


Really?
I've never heard that theory before.
What is it based on?

im going to base it on the fact that the jews are no longer gods chosen people.

Yes they are.
Read Paul - the Gentiles are grafted into the vine, the vine did not change.
Being chosen isn't enough - they still have to believe God, but that was always the case.

Um, and the branches that get tossed into the fire? That's right, the Jews are no longer God's chosen people. Read Paul- that's why circumcision is no longer any issue.


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#47 2006-01-06 3:21 pm

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

StaticAge wrote:

resedit wrote:

NoExit wrote:


im going to base it on the fact that the jews are no longer gods chosen people.

Yes they are.
Read Paul - the Gentiles are grafted into the vine, the vine did not change.
Being chosen isn't enough - they still have to believe God, but that was always the case.

Um, and the branches that get tossed into the fire? That's right, the Jews are no longer God's chosen people. Read Paul- that's why circumcision is no longer any issue.

next i bet res is going to tell us that christens are still under mosaic law.


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#48 2006-01-06 3:23 pm

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

What?

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#49 2006-01-06 3:29 pm

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#50 2006-01-06 3:42 pm

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Re: Robertson says Charon's stroke due to God's wrath

resedit wrote:

NoExit wrote:

resedit wrote:


Really?
I've never heard that theory before.
What is it based on?

im going to base it on the fact that the jews are no longer gods chosen people.

Yes they are.
Read Paul - the Gentiles are grafted into the vine, the vine did not change.
Being chosen isn't enough - they still have to believe God, but that was always the case.

Muslims believe in the same God too.

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