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Sure.  5 paypal dollars.  The game was just released for PC and it is a very impressive game.  Rewriting the executable file will take lots of work.

Well, Doom with lights on and vehicles and team AI. And a multiplayer that's supposed to be as good as Quake III.

I'll at least try the demo (if one comes out), and I might just get it. Who knows.

Last edited by akb825 (2006-01-09 2:27 am)

dcalfine wrote:

Sure.  5 paypal dollars.  The game was just released for PC and it is a very impressive game.  Rewriting the executable file will take lots of work.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it done using a universal binary?

F.E.A.R is the way of the future. Just make sure you have a Quad SLI setup if you want to run it on full settings XD. I need to have uber low settings for this to run on my computer, but it still looks phenomenal.

One more thing on Q4...check the first install disk before leaving the parking lot of the store.

Not knowing how Q4 for Mac will be packaged but if it's anything like how the PC is be aware. The first three #1 install disks I got were scratched beyond reading. What happened was they packaged all the disks on top of each other in a extra fat case with an elongated center spool. Well the first disk can pop off the spool allowing it to slide around free inside. After realizing this on the fourth attempt I started to shake packages looking for one that didn't rattle. That was the one I went home with and leaving 3 scratched and defective CDs for Target to deal with.

And that has been my worst experience with Q4...it was all downhill from there and a joy to play.

dj phat 2000 wrote:

Quake 4 is great.  I play it all the time.  MP is right along the lines of Quake 3, but the motion does feel very different at first.  it will take some getting used to, as you bob and wiggle more then just linear up and down when you strafe.  Other then that, looks great and is great.  I may even get the Mac version depending on whether or not it is well optimized for Dual core and dual CPU G4/5 systems.  If it can sustain 50 FPS on good settings I'll get it.  If not then no thanks.  It has to be on par with my P IV 3.2 HT box.  I know my video card is not as good as the 7800 (i have the X800 XT on the Mac), but it should get a nice boost with the extra CPU (if it is coded well for it). 

I played on the X300 (128MB PCI-e) in the same PC box, and was getting 30 or so FPS @ the same settings I play with a 7800 GT.  I'm looking to get in the middle of the 62, and 30FPS mark.  Still I thank Aspyr for porting the game.  Nice guys !!

It won't run as well, I can tell you that right now. With the settings turned up, it is most likely more GPU dependent than CPU dependent. Also, on the PC side there have been many, many optimizations just for the Doom 3 engine, much more than on the Mac, which is why you don't get as good performance on the Mac as on PC. That said, you should still get pretty good performance. Just for kicks, I turned the Doom 3 demo on my Mac (dual 2.7 GHz with Radeon X800) up to Ultra (which "requires" a 512 MB graphics card), and it still ran smoothly.

Last edited by akb825 (2006-01-09 3:12 pm)

Cyberpawz wrote:

ConnertheCat wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it done using a universal binary?

I can't believe you just said that - and you work for an Apple Store.

And my working in an Apple Store has to do what with not knowing how a game is written?

I figured you'd understand the difference between Mac Applications and Windows Executables, yes.

Cyberpawz wrote:

ConnertheCat wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

And my working in an Apple Store has to do what with not knowing how a game is written?

I figured you'd understand the difference between Mac Applications and Windows Executables, yes.

Actually doing some research it looks like the Mac port of Quake 4 will be a Universal Binary... and as for the rest, the Mac and PC executable may not be such a problem in the near future...

Yes, but the point still stands - The PC game is not a universal binary.

Bat wrote:

Conner's right.

akb825 wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

ConnertheCat wrote:

I figured you'd understand the difference between Mac Applications and Windows Executables, yes.

Actually doing some research it looks like the Mac port of Quake 4 will be a Universal Binary... and as for the rest, the Mac and PC executable may not be such a problem in the near future...

It will still take the same amount of time as if they were making the PPC port. They still need to deal with the endian issues on the PPC side, regardless of whether or not they support Intel with a universal binary. It may even take more time, since they need to actually make it so it can use either big or little endian, depending on the platform.

Oh, and with your UT2k4 having vehicles comment, by that logic we should all be playing Tribes right now, since that had vehicles around 1995 or so.

Ummm, I didn't make that comment, and I was playing tribes back then too, when any PC out there could barely handle it.

Oops. It must have been the, uh, blue in both of your avatars! (probably shouldn't have looked at the authors so quickly when posting that)

True, not many of '95s PCs could handle Tribes, but interesting how many folks were playing it then, years before release [12/98].

UT '04 did come out nearly two years ago. I've been playing a fair amount of it with the 3369 patch; and after 7 patches, it's fun, but still half the vehicles in a bot game of Onslaught seem to be abandoned after getting stuck various ways, or for no good reason [bot leaves undamaged Goliath on field to hoof it ], the Paladin still retains all the speed it gains on a downslope when it reaches level ground, and Karma's rigid-body physics are really, really due for an upgrade (what works for humanoids doesn't work near so well with vehicles; tanks really shouldn't get stuck on low rocks or be unable to negotiate small obstacles, let alone get stuck halfway over the side of a bridge after 7 patches. The longer I play, the more it feels I'm playing with Artificial Idiots).

Good thing the rest of it rocks. (Adaptive/ Transparency AA makes alpha textures like foliage, ice etc. look amazing, too; hope the Mac gets that driver feature/ option soon).

/Me looks to UT2007 for major improvements those things.